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Old 03-19-2013, 06:14 AM   #1
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Have you watched Malliciah Goodman, at all?

Guy has ridiculous measurables. All right right stuff that translates to the field -- kinda blah on the field, though. Wonder how he'd translate to the NFL as a 3-4 DE.
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Old 03-19-2013, 08:23 AM   #2
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Have you watched Malliciah Goodman, at all?

Guy has ridiculous measurables. All right right stuff that translates to the field -- kinda blah on the field, though. Wonder how he'd translate to the NFL as a 3-4 DE.
I think we have that same guy on the roster in Allen Bailey - and Bailey was substantially better on the field than Goodman was during his college career.

There is a number of guys like Goodman in this draft (e.g. - Ziggy Ansah, Margus Hunt, Cornelius Washington, Michael Buchannan, Devin Taylor, etc.), long, muscular guys that put up some pretty ridiculous combine/test numbers who really didn't have the production to back up the measurables on the field.

I personally really like Kruger as he put up good measurables and backed up that on the field (led the Utes in sacks in 2012). He was considered the "best" pro prospect out of the three Kruger brothers and probably would have had an even bigger year had he stayed in school this next season. And, as I stated, he'll easily carry 300 lbs. on his frame and still maintain his athleticism. Plays hard as hell and loves the game.
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Old 03-19-2013, 09:24 AM   #3
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I think we have that same guy on the roster in Allen Bailey - and Bailey was substantially better on the field than Goodman was during his college career.

There is a number of guys like Goodman in this draft (e.g. - Ziggy Ansah, Margus Hunt, Cornelius Washington, Michael Buchannan, Devin Taylor, etc.), long, muscular guys that put up some pretty ridiculous combine/test numbers who really didn't have the production to back up the measurables on the field.

I personally really like Kruger as he put up good measurables and backed up that on the field (led the Utes in sacks in 2012). He was considered the "best" pro prospect out of the three Kruger brothers and probably would have had an even bigger year had he stayed in school this next season. And, as I stated, he'll easily carry 300 lbs. on his frame and still maintain his athleticism. Plays hard as hell and loves the game.
He'd "easily" carry thirty additional pounds?

Have you ever had to gain weight? It's really hard, especially when you're an elite freaking athlete like Kruger. Gaining even something like ten pounds can affect you.
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Old 03-19-2013, 09:47 AM   #4
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He'd "easily" carry thirty additional pounds?

Have you ever had to gain weight? It's really hard, especially when you're an elite freaking athlete like Kruger. Gaining even something like ten pounds can affect you.
Hell, I just lost 25 lbs. in a month and a half. I don't even notice it.

Kruger could put on 20 lbs. on his legs and ass and you wouldn't even notice he did it. He's got a big frame that can easily carry 30 lbs. without even stressing his physical capabilities. Especially if he's playing a 34 DE position. Will help with his strength as well.

This frame can easily carry 30+ more lbs.:





He's nowhere close to being maxed out.

I think you need to consider how 30 lbs. spreads out on a 6'6 1/2" frame like that. You wouldn't even notice it.
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Old 03-19-2013, 09:52 AM   #5
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Hell, I just lost 25 lbs. in a month and a half. I don't even notice it.
First of all, congratulations!

Second of all, you're a lying mother****er. There's no way you can't notice that. You're probably more fit, lighter, probably stronger unless you lost the weight due to illness (in which case, I rescind the congrats...).

I really don't like it when teams ask players to put on or lose weight, and I dislike how people frequently say "well we'll have the guy put on/lose 15+ pounds" like it's nothing. The player is at the weight that he chose and will undoubtedly play the most enthusiastically at -- a 10 pound correction isn't that bad, but anything beyond that and you're turning him into another player. Only in the latest rounds of the draft should you try something like that, or in extreme cases where a player is clearly not physically fit (like Terrance Cody's 30 pound weight loss for the Ravens).

But Kruger is very fit. And he probably can put on 30 pounds, but why not get a guy who's already there rather than trusting Kruger can gain 30 pounds and play the same?
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Old 03-19-2013, 10:09 AM   #6
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First of all, congratulations!

Second of all, you're a lying mother****er. There's no way you can't notice that. You're probably more fit, lighter, probably stronger unless you lost the weight due to illness (in which case, I rescind the congrats...).
Really. Don't notice it at all. Face looks a little bit leaner, but that's about it. It's all how you, as a person/individual, carry the weight.

Starting Feb. 1, I was 226 lbs. Right now, I'm 197. (Just went up and stepped on the scale.) I seriously don't feel a bit different. Definitely not stronger though. It's amazing how 20/25 lbs. puts on your ability to pump bigger iron.


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I really don't like it when teams ask players to put on or lose weight, and I dislike how people frequently say "well we'll have the guy put on/lose 15+ pounds" like it's nothing. The player is at the weight that he chose and will undoubtedly play the most enthusiastically at -- a 10 pound correction isn't that bad, but anything beyond that and you're turning him into another player. Only in the latest rounds of the draft should you try something like that, or in extreme cases where a player is clearly not physically fit (like Terrance Cody's 30 pound weight loss for the Ravens).

But Kruger is very fit. And he probably can put on 30 pounds, but why not get a guy who's already there rather than trusting Kruger can gain 30 pounds and play the same?
Because you're talking about a 21 year old guy who has been working out and playing football all the time. And has been eating college cafeteria food. The weight gain for a guy like Kruger isn't going to be a big deal at all. That's a single off-season in an NFL weight room with a better diet.

You take a guy like Kruger, with that frame, athleticism and raw strength, and project him to the 34 end position at 30 lbs. heavier. The 30 lbs. adds to his strength and ability to drive block. His 40 speed is irrelevant due to the position. He's not Dion Jordan or Barkevious Mingo, outside speed rushers who need that twitch speed, where 30 lbs. is going to probably affect that initial burst. 30 lbs. on guys like Hunt or Kruger - big, long, lean dudes who are going to have to man on man 320 lbs. guards and tackles is a good thing.
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