Other Sports Official 2018 FIFA World Cup Thread. - Page 50

TripleThreat · 10:47 AM

The most popular tournament in the world has finally come to a reality after 4 long years. 32 teams battle it out for the once every four year tournament known as the FIFA World Cup.

USA Eliminated from the World Cup, and did not qualify for the tournament for the first time since 1986. USA plans and vows to be back as a power house for the 2022 FIFA World Cup.

USA, Mexico, and Canada will host the 2026 FIFA World Cup, with USA hosting 60 of the 80 matches. Below is a link for the 2026 possible venues for play, Arrowhead being one of the possibility's as a venue for the cup.

https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/wor...da-going-to-be

Below are the 32 teams that qualified this year for the 2018 World Cup, and will fight for a chance at the title.

Eliminated:

Group A: Saudia Arabia, Egypt

Group B: Iran, Morocco

Group C: Peru, Australia

Group D: Iceland, Nigeria

Group E: Costa Rica, serbia

Group F: Germany, Korea Republic

Group G: Panama Tunisia

Group H: Poland, Senegal

**penguinz** · 07-08-2018, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

So did heads roll after missing the cup? Are they making changes? Or does our talent level suck so bad we have no business being in the tournament anyway?

Things changed but not really. They are still looking for a permanent coach.

The entire system is broken from youth all the way to the National Team.

GloryDayz · 07-08-2018, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by penguinz

Things changed but not really. They are still looking for a permanent coach.

The entire system is broken from youth all the way to the National Team.

Broken? I see so many kids in competitive youth sports, soccer with a huge level of participation, I'm not sure the argument that the system itself is what's causing us to not produce the world's best players.

What I might argue is that our overall system with raising kids to experience as much as they can and find their passion, which I agree with, is that we do our best to make sure our kids diversify (to some degree) growing up and know few limits. I'm not arguing that our kids aren't becoming one-sport kids, many are (my younger kid only plays hockey as a competitive sport now), but we still, generally, ask our kids to try anything and everything that looks interesting, the find their passion.

I've coached both my sons in football, baseball, wrestling, and hockey (only one of them in hockey) in the competitive sports area. They've also become very-experienced SCUBA divers, and they play 10-20 rounds of golf a year as non-competitive life-long sports. Add Scouting, playing a musical instrument, and being deeply involved in school (both have chosen band and Robotics to immerse themselves in) as the only things they "must" do to the list and they've experienced a lot, including trying youth soccer and basketball too.

While casa-'de-GloryDayz might be bit of an exception, I really don't think it is. I think most of us "generally" nudge our kids to to try as many things as possible, find their passion, then pursue it vigorously. I think we just have a lot more things for kids to try.

Now back to my thoughts on why the soccer stock from USA-born stock might not be up to winning (getting into!!) the FIFA WC and I use my European life experience for how I connect the dots. My family spent 6 years in Rome, IT in the 70's living on the economy (in town, not on a base - my parents hated living on bases!), and while I loved Italy and the whole experience, and anybody can argue that swimming, volleyball, archery, and fencing were options as sports for Italian kids, 99% of their sports lives revolve around soccer. On top of that, like some USA youth and a basket ball, if the Italian kids weren't in class, sleeping, pooping, or in church, they prolly had a soccer ball on their person. I think that's a very common model around the non-USA world, and it helps to produce more experienced stock.

It's both a numbers and a "gained experience" deal IMO. I'd ask this, how many hours of soccer, on average, compared to prospects in other countries, do American soccer players have by the time they hit the age of 22? It may not be 10:1, but if it's 2:1, or even 1.5:1, that's still huge.

And I like our system better.

Sorry for the book...

Prison Bitch · 07-08-2018, 10:16 AM

Sucks Russia lost

**penguinz** · 07-08-2018, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

Broken? I see so many kids in competitive youth sports, soccer with a huge level of participation, I'm not sure the argument that the system itself is what's causing us to not produce the world's best players.

What I might argue is that our overall system with raising kids to experience as much as they can and find their passion, which I agree with, is that we do our best to make sure our kids diversify (to some degree) growing up and know few limits. I'm not arguing that our kids aren't becoming one-sport kids, many are (my younger kid only plays hockey as a competitive sport now), but we still, generally, ask our kids to try anything and everything that looks interesting, the find their passion.

I've coached both my sons in football, baseball, wrestling, and hockey (only one of them in hockey) in the competitive sports area. They've also become very-experienced SCUBA divers, and they play 10-20 rounds of golf a year as non-competitive life-long sports. Add Scouting, playing a musical instrument, and being deeply involved in school (both have chosen band and Robotics to immerse themselves in) as the only things they "must" do to the list and they've experienced a lot, including trying youth soccer and basketball too.

While casa-'de-GloryDayz might be bit of an exception, I really don't think it is. I think most of us "generally" nudge our kids to to try as many things as possible, find their passion, then peruse vigorously. I think we just have a lot more things for kids to try.

Now back to my thoughts on why the soccer stock from USA-born stock might not be up to winning (getting into!!) the FIFA WC and I use my European life experience for how I connect the dots. My family spent 6 years in Rome, IT in the 70's living on the economy (in town, not on a base - my parents hated living on bases!), and while I loved Italy and the whole experience, and anybody can argue that swimming, volleyball, archery, and fencing were options as sports for Italian kids, 99% of their sports lives revolve around soccer. On top of that, like some USA youth and a basket ball, if the Italian kids weren't in class, sleeping, pooping, or in church, they prolly had a soccer ball on their person. I think that's a very common model around the non-USA world, and it helps to produce more experienced stock.

It's both a numbers and a "gained experience" deal IMO. I'd ask this, how many hours of soccer, on average, compared to prospects in other countries, do American soccer players have by the time they hit the age of 22? It may not be 10:1, but if it's 2:1, or even 1.5:1, that's still huge.

And I like our system better.

Sorry for the book...

The US has a pay-to-play model and it is very expensive to play. We are the only nation that builds their talent pool this way.

Skyy God · 07-08-2018, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Sucks Russia lost

Of course you’re sad, Putin’s Bitch.

GloryDayz · 07-08-2018, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by penguinz

The US has a pay-to-play model and it is very expensive to play. We are the only nation that builds their talent pool this way.

That is true that we pay to play, but I don't recall playing on soccer teams in Italy being free either. Other than at school, and that's true here too.

What I won't argue is that competitive sports in America are over priced.

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**Baby Lee** · 07-09-2018, 03:05 PM

I wasn't going to mess with this meme, what with being a ****ing jinx and all, but this one made me tear up.

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Spott · 07-09-2018, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

So did heads roll after missing the cup? Are they making changes? Or does our talent level suck so bad we have no business being in the tournament anyway?

I doubt the talent level is bad, but the best athletes here would never play soccer over football, baseball or basketball.

SuperBowl4 · 07-10-2018, 07:06 AM

GO BELGIUM! Anybody but france

**loochy** · 07-10-2018, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Spott

I doubt the talent level is bad, but the best athletes here would never play soccer over football, baseball or basketball.

Ugh, the "athletes" argument again.

Our problem isn't athleticism. Our problem is knowing how to play the game. Our youth coaching sucks - it's too robotic and drill based (american football type coaching) and it's too focused on winning. There's too little focus on feeling and reading the game. There's very little organic pickup type ball being played, which is where the insane individual ball skills get developed.

Bewbies · 07-10-2018, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Spott

I doubt the talent level is bad, but the best athletes here would never play soccer over football, baseball or basketball.