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redshirt32 · 03-25-2015, 10:47 PM

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DRAFT BUZZ

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With the 2015 draft still some 5 weeks away there appears to be considerable movement of players up and down draft boards around the league. The following are a number of players who may not have been much more than third-day prospects when the draft process started, but have moved well up since and may actually have begun to get just a hint of late first-round consideration by some teams.

Clemson ILB Stephone Anthony: Thought of a productive, but somewhat limited athlete with mid-to-late round prospect for the upcoming draft, Anthony has been pushing the envelope right through the pre-draft process starting at the senior Bowl where he was all over dispelling the notion that he had primarily between the tackles range. Anthony then had an outstanding combine where he clocked a very fast time of 4.56 seconds in the 40-yard dash, the third-fastest time among all defensive front-seven players in Indianapolis this year. For good measure, Anthony also had an athletic 37-inch vertical, while his agility drill times were all among the top figures at the position. Finally, Anthony showed plenty more agility and fluidity in positional drills at both the combine and the Tigers’ pro day earlier this month. NFL teams still have some concerns about Anthony’s natral football instincts, particularly when dropping into coverage, however, because of his toughness when making the tackle and overall athletic skills, Anthony has gone from a possible 4th-5th round pick this year to a point where he is contending with the likes of Mississippi’s State Benardrick McKinney, Eric Kendricks of UCLA and Miami’s Denzel Perryman to be the first inside linebacker off the board. Indeed, there is a palpable buzz that a team like Green Bay could actually be looking at him as a possibility for their late first round pick.

Oregon OT Jake Fisher: We kind of joked early in the 2014 college season that Fisher should maybe get some Heisman consideration when the Ducks’ offense just took off after missing some time with an injury. Turns out Fisher may get the last laugh. Fisher is a former TE who has shown in pre-draft workouts that he he is a much more fluid, athletic offensive lineman than previously thought. At the combine, for example, Fisher had the second fastest 40 clocking among offensive linemen at 5.01 seconds, while he posted a 32.5-inch vertical, which also tied for second among OL, and then blew away the competition at the position in the agility drills. All that has NFL teams thinking of a Fisher as a guy who could come in and start at RT right away, but what has pushed his up boards across the league is the sense that he has the feet and work ethic to eventually play at LT at the next level, although he still needs to add some strength and clean up some technical issues, in particular his hand usage off the snap. However, at 6-6, Fisher has the frame to bulk up to the 320 pound range – he weighed 306 at the combine – and given the value team’s place on the LT position, is another player who now looks like a solid early-to-mid-second round candidate who no one would be totally shocked if some team ultimately pulls the string in the latter part of the opening round.

Central Florida WR Breshad Perriman: If UCF’s Perriman didn’t have teams thinking about him as a potential early pick prior to his pro day this week, then they almost certainly will after he reportedly ran the 40 in something in the 4.3 range. In fact, Perriman may be just what the 2015 draft needs and that’s yet another really good prospect at receiver as he has a rare combination of size (he’s 6-2, 212), track speed and leaping ability. He also plays fast with an explosive first step and the ability to make sudden cuts. Indeed, he emerged as one of college football’s most dangerous big-play receivers last fall when he averaged almost 21 yards per catch (on 50 total receptions) and scored a team-leading 9 TDs on a team that really didn’t throw the ball all that well. In the past, though, Perriman has gotten by on his pure speed and athleticism and will need to clean some things up when he gets to the pros. In particular, his routes are sloppy as he tends to round them off and his hands are average at best as he lets too many passes get into his pads. Still, you can’t teach speed and athleticism such that his physical traits and ability to hit the big play should warrant plenty of early round consideration this year. And yes for the record, he is the son of former Miami WR Brett Perriman, who had a solid 10 year NFL career.

Arizona State FS Damarious Randall: No player in the 2015 draft class has come further, faster than ASU’s Randall who wasn’t even playing football four years ago. Indeed, Randall played baseball at a community college in 2011 before transferring to Mesa Community College where he was a JC All-American in 2012 after picking off 9 passes that year. Randall then played the last two years at ASU where he evolved into one of the most productive safeties in the country as he led the team with 106 tackles last fall, including 9.5 for loss, while he picked off 3 passes and broke up 9 others. Randall isn’t all that big at just 5-11, 195, but he can really run and has great instincts and ball skills. Indeed, there are some teams that are reportedly looking at him as a possible corner, although he is probably a little stiff in the hips to hold up on an island against elite receivers. Still, Randall was only one of two safeties to run under 4.5 seconds at the combine (along with Eric Rowe of Utah), while he was in the top 2-3 prospects at the position in the other key physical tests including the agility drills. And in a year in which ball-hawking free safety types are about as rare as hen’s teeth, Randall is another guy with the potential to be off the board within the first 40 or so picks at this year’s draft.

Bonus buzz: In addition to the above players, there is something of a buzz that QBs Bryce Petty of Baylor and Colorado State’s Garrett Grayson may have passed Brett Hundley of UCLA as the #3 prospect at the position this year behind Jameis Winston of Florida State and Oregon’s Marcus Mariota. Hundley is by far the best athlete of the three, but Petty and Grayson are just better passers out of the pocket. And given that there are simply more than two teams with major QB issues heading into the draft, the question around the NFL is just how early teams that don’t get Winston or Mariota will feel the pressure to get the next best thing at the position and that could mean reaching a tad in the second round. There has also been something of a buzz around the league of late that nobody should be surprised if Georgia RB Todd Gurley is selected a lot earlier than where he is being projected in most current mock drafts. Gurley, of course, was considered to be the best player in college football last season before he tore an ACL in October that sent his stock tumbling. However, Gurley’s rehab is reportedly going well such that he may not have to wait much past the first 10-12 or so picks before he starts to come into play, that is if somebody doesn’t pull the trigger in the top 10.

Can not wait tell draft day should be exciting and good haul for KC this year !

LBs to me seem the hardest to judge/rate, and its too bad because thats a place I was wanting to find another DJ!

My big board ugh....
#35 Kendricks
#42 Anothny
#46 Mckinney
Shaq Thompson no idea where to slot this player can he be a good ILB ?
Paul Dawson?

Direckshun · 03-26-2015, 03:27 PM

He was injured running the 40 at the Combine, was he not?

**Meatloaf** · 03-26-2015, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KC native

His combine was flat out awful. He tried to put on weight and didn't do it well. He claims he tweaked his hamstring on his first 40 run.

He's not a knucklehead nor does he have baggage. He failed a UA for adderol because he didn't have a prescription. He was late (we're talking minutes here) for meetings and weight lifting sessions.

If he is there in the 2nd, the Chiefs should draft him.

Thanks Native. BTW, my "knucklehead" comment had to do with his comment that he said that his coach would probably call him a knucklehead for being late to meetings and such. The baggage I was referring to related to him being a bit of a head case (in a nice way); kind of a free spirit. You know, stuff like attempting to put on weight and being out of shape for the combine......kinda weird, don't you think? Did he not get any advice? Did he listen to it? That's my concern; is he too free of a spirit? Anyway, I wasn't referring to the adderol thing as that didn't seem particularly egregious to me.

Don't get me wrong, I think the kid can flat play. In my mind he looks like the best ILB in the draft. Hope the Chiefs find a way to snag him.

Urc Burry · 03-26-2015, 06:21 PM

Charles Davis said don't be surprised if Kevin White is the 3rd receiver taken... if he makes it to the teens i'm going to want to trade up

Dante84 · 03-26-2015, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Perryman or Perriman?

Because Denzel Perryman's the best ILB in this draft.

My thoughts are below from a month ago. Again - limited exposure to him, but from his game tapes, he doesn't strike me as elite.

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Originally Posted by DA_T_84

I've heard a lot of hype over Denzel Perryman, and admittedly, I haven't seen him play.

I just watched his game against Nebraska - again, only and first impression - but I was kinda disappointed.

+ He is very strong; his arms wrap the runner with a huge impact on his tackles, and he lifts the runner up.
+ Holds his ground on blocks
+ He takes great angles in pursuit to the outside

- He seems slow to react; does a lot of watching and waiting... and sort of dances around the pile while other guys are on the ground.
- While he takes great angles, it was usually because he was slow to get to the initial point of contact. It's like he's trying to play clean up man, instead of the first-to-arrive destroyer mentality that we see with DJ sometimes.

Takeaways - I need to watch more on him, because he has a ton of buzz and I just don't see it yet. I'm guessing he lays nasty hits occasionally, but he just seems to be out there hovering and protecting himself. Almost reminds me of DRC just standing around the pile instead of getting in on the tackles. I expected to see more nasty, more fight I guess.

Saccopoo · 03-26-2015, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC native

His combine was flat out awful. He tried to put on weight and didn't do it well. He claims he tweaked his hamstring on his first 40 run.

He's not a knucklehead nor does he have baggage. He failed a UA for adderol because he didn't have a prescription. He was late (we're talking minutes here) for meetings and weight lifting sessions.

If he is there in the 2nd, the Chiefs should draft him.

Jesus ****ing Christ!!!!

Paul Dawson, if he's in playing shape, is 215/220 lb. max. with short arms. If he's not in playing shape at 230 lb., he's a fat **** who is slower than frozen elephant shit.

The ****ing guy is not playing in a 34. He would get completely ****ing destroyed in a 34. Guards will ****ing decapitate him. Tight ends will feast on his ****ing entrails.

No way, no how. Period. End of story. Doneski.

Direckshun · 03-26-2015, 08:42 PM

Never change, Sac.

O.city · 03-26-2015, 08:46 PM

So Shaq Thompson at 18. Thoughts?

Direckshun · 03-26-2015, 08:48 PM

Not a fan, personally -- he's super athletic but I think he's an awkward fit at 3-4 ILB. I think he's got tweener written all over him.

He's more of a 4-3 OLB, or even a SS.

O.city · 03-26-2015, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Not a fan, personally -- he's super athletic but I think he's an awkward fit at 3-4 ILB. I think he's got tweener written all over him.

He's more of a 4-3 OLB, or even a SS.

I thought that, but with as much as we are in subsets, I dunno. Him and DJ in the middle would be pretty good in the tight end game.

He just screams versatility to me.

Direckshun · 03-26-2015, 08:56 PM

Yeah. Fair point. Honestly, you could throw a superb athlete like him into our defense and Sutton would maximize him.

Sutton had a banner year in 2014, and spun a bunch of straw into a bunch of gold. I'm a huge fan.

I think he could make do with Thompson. I'd just angle for better talent elsewhere.

O.city · 03-26-2015, 08:59 PM

True.

It's tough because he's def more athlete than football player at this point. That early in the draft, you'd rather have both.

KC native · 03-26-2015, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Jesus ****ing Christ!!!!

Paul Dawson, if he's in playing shape, is 215/220 lb. max. with short arms. If he's not in playing shape at 230 lb., he's a fat **** who is slower than frozen elephant shit.

The ****ing guy is not playing in a 34. He would get completely ****ing destroyed in a 34. Guards will ****ing decapitate him. Tight ends will feast on his ****ing entrails.

No way, no how. Period. End of story. Doneski.

You are wrong.

KC native · 03-26-2015, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meatloaf

Thanks Native. BTW, my "knucklehead" comment had to do with his comment that he said that his coach would probably call him a knucklehead for being late to meetings and such. The baggage I was referring to related to him being a bit of a head case (in a nice way); kind of a free spirit. You know, stuff like attempting to put on weight and being out of shape for the combine......kinda weird, don't you think? Did he not get any advice? Did he listen to it? That's my concern; is he too free of a spirit? Anyway, I wasn't referring to the adderol thing as that didn't seem particularly egregious to me.

Don't get me wrong, I think the kid can flat play. In my mind he looks like the best ILB in the draft. Hope the Chiefs find a way to snag him.

He was training at some camp in Cali with Chris Hackett. They both had added weight and were slow at the combine. Not sure what the advisers at the camp were thinking.

redshirt32 · 03-27-2015, 02:31 AM

Jeff Luc under the radar

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profil...luc?id=2553101
http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/f.../individual/34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eepWXJywEOs

Looks in shape and seems nice lol, had six FF last year, averages about the same tackles as Ben Heeney but Ben had 88 solo tackles last year compared to 65 for Luc.

Im starting to warm up to this guy and big Ben from Kansas Ben more so, of course there is Vigil and that Mayo kid from Tex.

Chiefs should get one of these players based on there production alone or two see if they can make the final cut date.

Looking at more tape and stats on LBs there has to be diamond in the rough for LBs this year.....

Direckshun · 03-27-2015, 02:33 AM

I like Ben Heeney a ton as a late rounder.

Mike Hull is pretty great too.

03-25-2015, 10:47 PM
redshirt32 Fire Controlman Vet Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: By the Sea Casino cash: $6124936	Draft Buzz http://gbnreport.com/draft-buzz/ DRAFT BUZZ Crashing the party Posted: March 25, 2015 \| No Comments With the 2015 draft still some 5 weeks away there appears to be considerable movement of players up and down draft boards around the league. The following are a number of players who may not have been much more than third-day prospects when the draft process started, but have moved well up since and may actually have begun to get just a hint of late first-round consideration by some teams. Clemson ILB Stephone Anthony: Thought of a productive, but somewhat limited athlete with mid-to-late round prospect for the upcoming draft, Anthony has been pushing the envelope right through the pre-draft process starting at the senior Bowl where he was all over dispelling the notion that he had primarily between the tackles range. Anthony then had an outstanding combine where he clocked a very fast time of 4.56 seconds in the 40-yard dash, the third-fastest time among all defensive front-seven players in Indianapolis this year. For good measure, Anthony also had an athletic 37-inch vertical, while his agility drill times were all among the top figures at the position. Finally, Anthony showed plenty more agility and fluidity in positional drills at both the combine and the Tigers’ pro day earlier this month. NFL teams still have some concerns about Anthony’s natral football instincts, particularly when dropping into coverage, however, because of his toughness when making the tackle and overall athletic skills, Anthony has gone from a possible 4th-5th round pick this year to a point where he is contending with the likes of Mississippi’s State Benardrick McKinney, Eric Kendricks of UCLA and Miami’s Denzel Perryman to be the first inside linebacker off the board. Indeed, there is a palpable buzz that a team like Green Bay could actually be looking at him as a possibility for their late first round pick. Oregon OT Jake Fisher: We kind of joked early in the 2014 college season that Fisher should maybe get some Heisman consideration when the Ducks’ offense just took off after missing some time with an injury. Turns out Fisher may get the last laugh. Fisher is a former TE who has shown in pre-draft workouts that he he is a much more fluid, athletic offensive lineman than previously thought. At the combine, for example, Fisher had the second fastest 40 clocking among offensive linemen at 5.01 seconds, while he posted a 32.5-inch vertical, which also tied for second among OL, and then blew away the competition at the position in the agility drills. All that has NFL teams thinking of a Fisher as a guy who could come in and start at RT right away, but what has pushed his up boards across the league is the sense that he has the feet and work ethic to eventually play at LT at the next level, although he still needs to add some strength and clean up some technical issues, in particular his hand usage off the snap. However, at 6-6, Fisher has the frame to bulk up to the 320 pound range – he weighed 306 at the combine – and given the value team’s place on the LT position, is another player who now looks like a solid early-to-mid-second round candidate who no one would be totally shocked if some team ultimately pulls the string in the latter part of the opening round. Central Florida WR Breshad Perriman: If UCF’s Perriman didn’t have teams thinking about him as a potential early pick prior to his pro day this week, then they almost certainly will after he reportedly ran the 40 in something in the 4.3 range. In fact, Perriman may be just what the 2015 draft needs and that’s yet another really good prospect at receiver as he has a rare combination of size (he’s 6-2, 212), track speed and leaping ability. He also plays fast with an explosive first step and the ability to make sudden cuts. Indeed, he emerged as one of college football’s most dangerous big-play receivers last fall when he averaged almost 21 yards per catch (on 50 total receptions) and scored a team-leading 9 TDs on a team that really didn’t throw the ball all that well. In the past, though, Perriman has gotten by on his pure speed and athleticism and will need to clean some things up when he gets to the pros. In particular, his routes are sloppy as he tends to round them off and his hands are average at best as he lets too many passes get into his pads. Still, you can’t teach speed and athleticism such that his physical traits and ability to hit the big play should warrant plenty of early round consideration this year. And yes for the record, he is the son of former Miami WR Brett Perriman, who had a solid 10 year NFL career. Arizona State FS Damarious Randall: No player in the 2015 draft class has come further, faster than ASU’s Randall who wasn’t even playing football four years ago. Indeed, Randall played baseball at a community college in 2011 before transferring to Mesa Community College where he was a JC All-American in 2012 after picking off 9 passes that year. Randall then played the last two years at ASU where he evolved into one of the most productive safeties in the country as he led the team with 106 tackles last fall, including 9.5 for loss, while he picked off 3 passes and broke up 9 others. Randall isn’t all that big at just 5-11, 195, but he can really run and has great instincts and ball skills. Indeed, there are some teams that are reportedly looking at him as a possible corner, although he is probably a little stiff in the hips to hold up on an island against elite receivers. Still, Randall was only one of two safeties to run under 4.5 seconds at the combine (along with Eric Rowe of Utah), while he was in the top 2-3 prospects at the position in the other key physical tests including the agility drills. And in a year in which ball-hawking free safety types are about as rare as hen’s teeth, Randall is another guy with the potential to be off the board within the first 40 or so picks at this year’s draft. Bonus buzz: In addition to the above players, there is something of a buzz that QBs Bryce Petty of Baylor and Colorado State’s Garrett Grayson may have passed Brett Hundley of UCLA as the #3 prospect at the position this year behind Jameis Winston of Florida State and Oregon’s Marcus Mariota. Hundley is by far the best athlete of the three, but Petty and Grayson are just better passers out of the pocket. And given that there are simply more than two teams with major QB issues heading into the draft, the question around the NFL is just how early teams that don’t get Winston or Mariota will feel the pressure to get the next best thing at the position and that could mean reaching a tad in the second round. There has also been something of a buzz around the league of late that nobody should be surprised if Georgia RB Todd Gurley is selected a lot earlier than where he is being projected in most current mock drafts. Gurley, of course, was considered to be the best player in college football last season before he tore an ACL in October that sent his stock tumbling. However, Gurley’s rehab is reportedly going well such that he may not have to wait much past the first 10-12 or so picks before he starts to come into play, that is if somebody doesn’t pull the trigger in the top 10. Can not wait tell draft day should be exciting and good haul for KC this year ! LBs to me seem the hardest to judge/rate, and its too bad because thats a place I was wanting to find another DJ! My big board ugh.... #35 Kendricks #42 Anothny #46 Mckinney Shaq Thompson no idea where to slot this player can he be a good ILB ? Paul Dawson?
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03-26-2015, 03:27 PM	#16
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4353447	He was injured running the 40 at the Combine, was he not?
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03-26-2015, 06:21 PM	#18
Urc Burry Veteran Join Date: Jan 2011 Casino cash: $9031048	Charles Davis said don't be surprised if Kevin White is the 3rd receiver taken... if he makes it to the teens i'm going to want to trade up
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03-26-2015, 08:42 PM	#21
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4353447	Never change, Sac.
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03-26-2015, 08:46 PM	#22
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2724064	So Shaq Thompson at 18. Thoughts?
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03-26-2015, 08:48 PM	#23
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4353447	Not a fan, personally -- he's super athletic but I think he's an awkward fit at 3-4 ILB. I think he's got tweener written all over him. He's more of a 4-3 OLB, or even a SS.
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03-26-2015, 08:56 PM	#25
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4353447	Yeah. Fair point. Honestly, you could throw a superb athlete like him into our defense and Sutton would maximize him. Sutton had a banner year in 2014, and spun a bunch of straw into a bunch of gold. I'm a huge fan. I think he could make do with Thompson. I'd just angle for better talent elsewhere.
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03-26-2015, 08:59 PM	#26
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2724064	True. It's tough because he's def more athlete than football player at this point. That early in the draft, you'd rather have both.
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03-27-2015, 02:31 AM	#29
redshirt32 Fire Controlman Vet Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: By the Sea Casino cash: $6124936	Jeff Luc under the radar http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profil...luc?id=2553101 http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/f.../individual/34 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eepWXJywEOs Looks in shape and seems nice lol, had six FF last year, averages about the same tackles as Ben Heeney but Ben had 88 solo tackles last year compared to 65 for Luc. Im starting to warm up to this guy and big Ben from Kansas Ben more so, of course there is Vigil and that Mayo kid from Tex. Chiefs should get one of these players based on there production alone or two see if they can make the final cut date. Looking at more tape and stats on LBs there has to be diamond in the rough for LBs this year..... __________________ "I will rescind every single unconstitutional or illegal executive action from President Obama. " open an investigation into Planned Parenthood” and to prosecute any criminal conduct uncovered." Instruct the Department of Justice and the Internal Revenue Service to “cease persecuting” individuals seeking to practice their faith in their workplace.“End the catastrophic Iranian nuclear deal.” DAY ONE TED CRUZ
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03-27-2015, 02:33 AM	#30
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4353447	I like Ben Heeney a ton as a late rounder. Mike Hull is pretty great too.
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