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Old 02-23-2013, 03:32 PM  
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Teicher: Dorsey says Chiefs could draft Joeckel and re-sign Albert

Dorsey says Chiefs could draft Joeckel and re-sign Albert
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star
General manager John Dorsey said Saturday the Chiefs might select Texas A&M’s Luke Joeckel with the first pick in the draft even if they re-sign Branden Albert, their incumbent left tackle. Dorsey said the Chiefs would draft the highest-rated player they have on their board regardless of his position.

“Then you have great competition at left tackle,’’ said Dorsey, speaking at the NFL Scouting Combine, of the combination of re-signing Albert and drafting Joeckel . “Who’s to say both of those guys are locked in to playing left tackle? Maybe one plays left guard, center, right guard, right tackle. You put your best five offensive linemen out there.

“There are so many options out there right now. Anything is possible.’’

Another interesting option for the Chiefs is Georgia linebacker Jarvis Jones, who had 28 sacks over the past two seasons. The Chiefs already have Pro Bowlers at outside linebacker in Tamba Hali and Justin Houston.

“They’re both pretty good players,’’ Dorsey said of the incumbents. “But who’s to say you couldn’t acquire another outside linebacker and what you could do is begin to rotate them. What you do is you make that unit better because they’re all fresher. They’re not on the field pounding all the time. That’s the thing about building quality depth. You can make your guys fresher in the fourth quarter.’’
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Old 02-23-2013, 03:58 PM   #31
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It's absolutely asinine that Teicher writes this shit instead of asking appropriate follow-up questions to mock this charade. What team uses a top-five pick, let alone 1/1, to acquire OL depth. Depth. Not a ****ing starter.

Cite several examples of this precedent please, John.
There's nothing in that article about drafting OL depth.
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Old 02-23-2013, 03:59 PM   #32
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Methinks Dorsey is trying to raise the value of Joekel. An attempt to draw in a trade partner.
Yep. See which fish are biting if any. I realy doubt they do something that stupid with the 1st overall pick.
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Old 02-23-2013, 04:01 PM   #33
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Good teams don't follow this philosophy.

Every team is filling holes, always.

Sure, you have a board and you don't draft slapdicks just to fill a need.

But to say you take BPA, need be damned, is silly and quite frankly, insulting.
Occasionally, there are true BPA selections. I'm thinking about the Rodgers pick, most notably.

But, as a general rule, I agree that BPA is almost always empty rhetoric. And you're right that Dorsey needs to shut the **** up now.

Or there might be a banner over Arrowhead before the draft. Which, ironically, might not be a terrible idea.

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Old 02-23-2013, 04:01 PM   #34
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that one move would make Dorsey the worst GM in the history of life
I would agree. Tyson Jackson was a ****ing abortion of a pick, but it was at a position of need. That particular position should NEVER be drafted with the 3rd overall pick, there was a legit NT sitting right ****ing there, Cassel was a ****ing idiot trade, yadda yadda yadda. But he at least picked a guy who started and "led a defensive transition" to a new scheme.

Joeckel, in addition to being a ****ing abortion of a pick, plays in a position of ZERO need, even if Albert weren't re-signed.

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Old 02-23-2013, 04:02 PM   #35
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Dorsey says Chiefs could draft Joeckel and re-sign Albert
By ADAM TEICHER
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General manager John Dorsey said Saturday the Chiefs might select Texas A&M’s Luke Joeckel with the first pick in the draft even if they re-sign Branden Albert, their incumbent left tackle. Dorsey said the Chiefs would draft the highest-rated player they have on their board regardless of his position.

“Then you have great competition at left tackle,’’ said Dorsey, speaking at the NFL Scouting Combine, of the combination of re-signing Albert and drafting Joeckel . “Who’s to say both of those guys are locked in to playing left tackle? Maybe one plays left guard, center, right guard, right tackle. You put your best five offensive linemen out there.

“There are so many options out there right now. Anything is possible.’’

Another interesting option for the Chiefs is Georgia linebacker Jarvis Jones, who had 28 sacks over the past two seasons. The Chiefs already have Pro Bowlers at outside linebacker in Tamba Hali and Justin Houston.

“They’re both pretty good players,’’ Dorsey said of the incumbents. “But who’s to say you couldn’t acquire another outside linebacker and what you could do is begin to rotate them. What you do is you make that unit better because they’re all fresher. They’re not on the field pounding all the time. That’s the thing about building quality depth. You can make your guys fresher in the fourth quarter.’’
Dorsey is just F***ing with everybody.

But, beyond them not knowing who they will take with the first pick I don't see what the big deal is. It's not like somebody can leap frog them and steal their guy from them. They are being as secret about this as the former regime and really its not necessary.
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Two fairly obvious points hrere...

1) They really are interested in trading down and want teams to believe that.
2) They are making progress in negotiations with Albert and think its a foregone conclusion that he will re-sign long term.
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There's nothing in that article about drafting OL depth.
Nothing?

"Then you have great competition at LT"

This bullshit line, which precedes Dorsey's suggestion that a player taken at 1/1 might be a guard or center, is about depth.
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Old 02-23-2013, 04:05 PM   #38
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Yep. See which fish are biting if any. I realy doubt they do something that stupid with the 1st overall pick.
If that's the case then they are dumb.

Nobody wants our pick, especially not for a tackle.
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Old 02-23-2013, 04:05 PM   #39
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Occasionally, there are true BPA selections. I'm thinking about the Rodgers pick, most notably.

But, as a general rule, I agree that BPA is almost always empty rhetoric. And you're right that Dorsey needs to shut the **** up now.

Or there might be a banner over Arrowhead before the draft. Which, ironically, might not be a terrible idea.

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Aaron Rodgers was somewhat of a need pick in that Brett Favre wasn't getting any younger.
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Dorsey is just F***ing with everybody.

But, beyond them not knowing who they will take with the first pick I don't see what the big deal is. It's not like somebody can leap frog them and steal their guy from them. They are being as secret about this as the former regime and really its not necessary.
I do believe that they are probably attempting trade out and try to get a 1st from another team for next year .
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The only way I see anyone willing to move up to #1 is if a QB blows up the combine/pro-day (in which case we should take him.)

Unless we trade for Foles (puke) and trade spots in the first and give up a mid rounder in exchange. Otherwise, I think we're picking first.
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I do believe that they are probably attempting trade out and try to get a 1st from another team for next year .
Which is just silly.

If they REALLY wanted to trade that pick, they'd start spreading rumors that their interviews with Smith and/or Barkley were off the charts.

Using Luke Joeckel as trade bait is ****ing hilarious, if that's what they're doing.

And by hilarious, I mean pathetic.
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Which is just silly.

If they REALLY wanted to trade that pick, they'd start spreading rumors that their interviews with Smith and/or Barkley were off the charts.

Using Luke Joeckel as trade bait is ****ing hilarious, if that's what they're doing.

And by hilarious, I mean pathetic.
It is, what it is.

Though, I believe they'll stay put and the Chiefs will draft a QB.
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