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Old 03-23-2009, 08:44 PM  
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Old 09-10-2013, 02:00 PM   #3346
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Not being able to hit a fairly easy target, even with continuous fire from a machine gun, is pretty much a TV show and movie staple. Amazing how the bullets hit the ground, a railing, or any other number of things surrounding the guy being shot at. And no matter what the target is standing behind, it is always strong enough to stop a bullet.
I simply don't think Vince is that stupid/cliche, nor do I think that he thinks his audience is. He wouldn't do the "shootout where the bullets miss"; he'd do the one where Hank is hit immediately and dies, unless there is a specific reason that he wasn't being targeted.

If Hank lives, it's because he wasn't actually in the crosshairs. Otherwise, Fonzie will have strapped this show to his bike and just left the ramp, IMO.
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Old 09-10-2013, 02:08 PM   #3347
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Marie and Hank got to say 'I love you' one last time. sweet touch
Yeah, I knew when they were focusing on that it was the end for Hank. Plus, it was almost Batman like where that he's telling her "I got him!" before he's even in jail.
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Old 09-10-2013, 02:08 PM   #3348
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I simply don't think Vince is that stupid/cliche, nor do I think that he thinks his audience is. He wouldn't do the "shootout where the bullets miss"; he'd do the one where Hank is hit immediately and dies, unless there is a specific reason that he wasn't being targeted.

If Hank lives, it's because he wasn't actually in the crosshairs. Otherwise, Fonzie will have strapped this show to his bike and just left the ramp, IMO.
There have already been comments that in the last of scene when the shootout started, there were a hell of a lot of bullets flying, but no one had been shot.
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Old 09-10-2013, 02:10 PM   #3349
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Old 09-10-2013, 02:50 PM   #3350
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I simply don't think Vince is that stupid/cliche, nor do I think that he thinks his audience is. He wouldn't do the "shootout where the bullets miss"; he'd do the one where Hank is hit immediately and dies, unless there is a specific reason that he wasn't being targeted.

If Hank lives, it's because he wasn't actually in the crosshairs. Otherwise, Fonzie will have strapped this show to his bike and just left the ramp, IMO.
I think Hank will be hit, and he'll be lying on the ground, writhing in pain and at the mercy of Jack and his gang. Breaking Bad's writers like to foreshadow things. This has been foreshadowed a couple of times already: in the scene about a month ago when Jack's gang massacred the other meth group and their leader was lying on the ground before Jack finished him off, and in the scene a few seasons ago when Hank was lying on the ground about to get his head chopped off by one of the Mexican hit men.

The question is, will Walt somehow intervene and save him? As Cosmo mentioned, it's hard to believe Jack and his gang would spare the life of a DEA agent they were just shooting hundreds of rounds at.

I'm starting to think Hank is a goner.
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Old 09-10-2013, 02:53 PM   #3351
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I don't know how it would be possible for Walt to intervene. There is nothing he can do.
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Old 09-10-2013, 02:55 PM   #3352
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Here's an example where a chemist (and the show's scientific adviser) talks about Walt's choice of disincorporation agent:

Despite its impressive resume as a tough solution, it wouldn’t have been the best option to dissolve a body. Typically, flesh is dissolved with a base, most commonly sodium hydroxide (lye), generally used in the disposal of road kill. This option would have been a lot safer to use to dissolve Emilio, too. Lye is a common clog remover in drains, so Jesse’s bathtub stunt would not have been so disastrous. It also would have been safer because the fumes are not nearly so toxic. Most household uses of hydrofluoric acid are diluted to 3 percent hydrofluoric acid in H2O, in order to make them safe for use. Sure, Jesse was wearing his mask when he began the reaction, but the fumes would have infiltrated the house, and would have damaged most exposed surfaces inside, by the time the acid had eaten through the tub.
they did this, and the mercury fulminate explosion, on mythbusters a few weeks ago.

they were both debunked
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Old 09-10-2013, 03:01 PM   #3353
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The show has gotten increasingly pulpy on purpose, guys. Remember, Vince Gilligan's intention has always been to "turn Mr. Chips into Scarface." The show has become more like a traditional crime film -- with bullets flying and train heists and bombings and etc. since season 4.

I too think that Hank and Gomez must be dead, but I take no issue with the firefight. This show has been trending unrealistic for years and, as Hamas established, was never the most realistic show to begin with.
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Old 09-10-2013, 03:10 PM   #3354
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they did this, and the mercury fulminate explosion, on mythbusters a few weeks ago.

they were both debunked
There may be a reason they're not giving people the correct answers of 'how to best dissolve a body' or 'how to create an explosion' on a TV show.
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Old 09-10-2013, 03:15 PM   #3355
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There have already been comments that in the last of scene when the shootout started, there were a hell of a lot of bullets flying, but no one had been shot.
I was thinking earlier that I can't imagine how either/both Jesse and/or Walt don't catch strays, too.
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Old 09-10-2013, 03:35 PM   #3356
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Ok I think I figured it out:

Hank / Gomez/ Jessie all die...

Walt turns DVD confession to DEA... wears a wire to pickup the gun - and then deliver it to Uncle Jak and gets total immunity - keeps his money ... Dies of cancer
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Ok I think I figured it out:

Hank / Gomez/ Jessie all die...

Walt turns DVD confession to DEA... wears a wire to pickup the gun - and then deliver it to Uncle Jak and gets total immunity - keeps his money ... Dies of cancer
Why would he deliver an M60 to a guy whose gang had an AA-12? The latter is harder to obtain than the former.
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I don't know how it would be possible for Walt to intervene. There is nothing he can do.
He has what they want. He has the knowledge and ability to cook pure meth which is blue in color.
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He has what they want. He has the knowledge and ability to cook pure meth which is blue in color.
Yeah... They're still not going to let a DEA agent they tried to kill walk away being able to identify them. Without outside intervention, those two are dead.
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