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Old 02-28-2024, 08:17 AM  
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Let's talk about the Nate Taylor monologue

Nate Taylor, on the most recently episode of Time's Ours Only Weird Games, said that the Sneed dynamic is a punishment for both the Chiefs and Sneed, despite the fact that both parties did everything right.

They drafted him, they developed him, they rostered him and played him.

He did everything they asked, he had zero off the field concerns, and played for them at an All Pro level.

And now, because the marriage between the parties was so successful, he likely has the leave the team and play elsewhere.

I was thinking this over. And I agree, this is a less than ideal situation for both teams -- sure Sneed gets paid, and the Chiefs likely get compensation. But the best outcome would have been for Sneed to stay in KC and get paid here. That's just structurally unlikely, however, because of the restriction of the salary cap.

I also think that maybe this is the least worst way we can approach the issue.

Maybe the league could carve out salary cap exceptions for players that a team drafts. Or maybe even that a team drafts on the third day, to reward both sides for their development and hard work.

What are your thoughts on this issue? How might you opt to resolve it?
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Old 02-28-2024, 09:09 AM   #16
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I think there needs to be a separate cap for just the QB position. It’s the Mahomes impact of the cap that leads us to the problem and it’s a problem that’s not just related to the leagues best qb. Teams are committing huge sums on money every year to even just OK qbs. So maybe it’s time to do something different for the position. Encourage teams to draft and develop QBs. Give them space to develop qbs on the roster.
This makes absolutely no sense. Defeats the whole purpose of the cap.
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Old 02-28-2024, 09:10 AM   #17
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Old 02-28-2024, 09:11 AM   #18
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It's a bitch being the admiral of the USS Threepeat. I want Sneed back as well, as you say, he has been exemplary on and off the field, but BV seems to have a better grasp on value than any other GM, and if he is confident he can more easily fill the CB position for $19mm less, it's a no-brainer, especially if they believe Sneed's knee will remain balky. It appears to be the formula of a dynasty, and it's hard to question.
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Old 02-28-2024, 09:11 AM   #19
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Mahomes is actually underpaid for what he’s worth.

How much money have the chiefs made since he’s been the qb?
Every 'face of the league' in every sport ever has likely been underpaid for what they were worth.
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Old 02-28-2024, 09:11 AM   #20
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Mahomes is actually underpaid for what he’s worth.

How much money have the chiefs made since he’s been the qb?
It would be interesting to see whos made the Chiefs more. Mahomes or Kelce/Swift
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Old 02-28-2024, 09:12 AM   #21
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Or, maybe quarterbacks need to stop resetting the market. Who cares if you're making $30M per year instead of $50M per year if it's more money than you could ever possibly spend? I get wanting to get paid what you're worth. But when is enough enough? And don't start about the owner can afford it. The teams not only have a salary cap, but a salary floor. And most teams are up against the cap every year. So it's the rest of the team that is paying that exorbitant salary in reality. They're either going to pay a quarterback $50+ million per year, or they're going to pay their talent in other places. It's crazy to me that quarterbacks are getting paid so much now at the expense of the rest of the team
It's almost like quarterback is the most important single position in all of sports and having an elite one should come with at least one trade-off.
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Old 02-28-2024, 09:13 AM   #22
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If the Bills were crying like this, we would make fun of them. It's why there is a salary cap.
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Old 02-28-2024, 09:16 AM   #23
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Who's 'punished' by a market being a market?
This is all that needs to be said on the matter. The Chiefs could easily pay Sneed if they prioritized it. Sneed gets tagged but those are the rules of the game that the NFLPA signed up for.

If you want to take a look at a situation where guys are arguably punished, you'd be better served revisiting the RB franchise tag situation from last offseason. But here? Huh?
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Old 02-28-2024, 09:19 AM   #24
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This has always been the reality of a cap league. Sometimes players have to go somewhere else to get what they think they're worth.

But what 'punishes' Sneed probably helps elsewhere in the league. As they alluded to, there are maybe 30-50 guys in the league who are worried about the tag and what it portends. But because the tag is a thing, it keeps some of the salaries down a bit and in so doing leaves more of the pie available elsewhere.

As who who this 'punishes' - well....I'm not sure it punishes anyone. The Chiefs drafted and got the benefits of a great player on a rookie contract. Now he wants to get paid and will - somewhere. What's Taylor's alternative? No free agency? Annual deals and a yearly free for all for everybody? No cap? No floor?

Who's 'punished' by a market being a market?

This is one of those things that must've sounded good in Taylor's head as he was trying to be high and mighty but really didn't make any sense because what we are seeing is a fairly natural progression.
That's becoming a trend with that entire show.
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This is all that needs to be said on the matter. The Chiefs could easily pay Sneed if they prioritized it. Sneed gets tagged but those are the rules of the game that the NFLPA signed up for.

If you want to take a look at a situation where guys are arguably punished, you'd be better served revisiting the RB franchise tag situation from last offseason. But here? Huh?
Sneed is about to make more money than he's ever seen before and somehow that equates to him being punished. Just silly.
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It would be interesting to see whos made the Chiefs more. Mahomes or Kelce/Swift
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Old 02-28-2024, 09:26 AM   #28
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If Veach had offered Sneed 13-14 mil a year for 4 years last year Sneed signs it in a heart beat. It’s Veach’s one major flaw.

Now Sneed did take a gigantic leap, and he’s going to be glad he was never offered
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Yeah I'm on board with certain positions starting to have their own cap. You could blame QB signings like Deshaun Watson from the Browns, but there's always that one terrible organization that pushes it up for others to follow suit, like Deshaun Watson pushing Lamar Jackson and Justin Herbert to saying I'm better than that guy, when really they all have the same amount of Super Bowl wins.
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