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Old 02-08-2024, 04:42 PM  
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Brett Veach prioritizing re-signing Chris Jones, L'Jarius Sneed

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HENDERSON, Nev. -- Kansas City Chiefs general manager Brett Veach said he is aware of the challenge the organization faces in re-signing both defensive tackle Chris Jones and cornerback L'Jarius Sneed but said it would be an offseason priority to get both players under new contracts.

"Sometimes I look at our situation and I'm like, 'I don't know how we're going to do this,' but we usually work through things systematically and have a list of the priorities,'' Veach said as the Chiefs continued preparations for Super Bowl LVIII against the San Francisco 49ers. "Certainly, Chris and LJ are at the top of the list.

"It's extremely hard because you have two keystone players there.''

Jones, 29, has been one of the NFL's top pass-rushers for years. He had 10.5 sacks this season to tie for the team lead after missing training camp and the first regular-season game while holding out for a new contract.

He didn't get the extension he was looking for, but the Chiefs sweetened the final season of his existing contract.

"It was important for us to mend the fences with Chris because we love him and he's an iconic player here, not just here, but I mean of all time,'' Veach said. "That was important for us, and we'll continue to work hard and see if we can get something done, but it will be a priority for us.''

The Chiefs used Sneed, 27, this season to defend against the opponent's top receiver much of the time, and none had big games against him.

Jones and Sneed are key players for an improved Chiefs defense that allowed fewer points than all but one other team during the regular season and held the Miami Dolphins, Buffalo Bills and Baltimore Ravens to 41 total points in the playoffs.

The Chiefs had defenses that were at times competitive since Patrick Mahomes became their starting quarterback in 2018, but rarely were they consistently so. Veach and the Chiefs found the task of building a top defense difficult because the past few seasons they were carrying Mahomes' massive contract.

"I still remember in '17 and '18 just saying if we can just get them to punt just once we've got a shot,'' Veach said. "Now all of a sudden it's like all we've got to do is just score once and we're good.

"Going from where we were in '17 and '18 to having one of the best defenses, knowing the constraints we had of just paying [Mahomes] and probably drafting later [in rounds], I don't think I ever envisioned having a top one or two defense.''
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Old 02-09-2024, 07:03 PM   #121
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Overall, I’ll still be rooting for the Chiefs either way. Based on my past experiences, I tend to root for them. Unless I’m bitching about them; speaking of that, god damn them for not resigning both guys! Damn it Varch!
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Old 02-09-2024, 08:43 PM   #122
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Chiefs have 44 players under contract for 2024 and $24MM in cap room.

$34MM if they cut MVS.

$41MM if they cut Justin Reid.

I think they cut MVS, sign Sneed long term, say goodbye to Chris and use the other $14MM to shore up the roster.

Either way say goodbye to Tranquil, Danna, Gay and probably Mike Edwards and Donovan Smith. They're all gonna be too expensive.
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MVS is 12 mil. Not 10
Reid is 10.75. Not 7

22.75 mil

We are at 24 mil now which I’m sure will drop

Dead money

MVS 2 mil
Reid 3.5

Mahomes will restructure. He said he would when he redid it last year

Thuney and Kelce might extend they might redo Taylor’s contract

There is really no one else

And we are keeping CO
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Old 02-09-2024, 08:55 PM   #123
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Bringing in a high dollar, free agent receiver that demands the ball, is not the way
Pat seems to like the youngers, so he can build
Maybe a receiver that demands making it to the SB then?
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Old 02-09-2024, 09:01 PM   #124
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Tyreek definitely coming back after his contract is up. He said it once he got traded that he will retire a chief. Sure looks like it

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Old 02-09-2024, 09:31 PM   #125
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The polarizing question I keep going back to in my thoughts is "Who would I rather have the next 3 seasons?"

We're all undeniably strong fans of both players.

This is most probably the last contract for both players and would certainly be in KC.

I've seen DTs perform well into their age 33-34 seasons with regularity so I don't worry about Chris Jones just turning 30 in July in comparison to Sneed turning 27 a month ago.

So, which is a better keep in terms of dominance, pass coverage or pass rush?

Which is easier to most closely replace?

And then is Jones a bigger impact at 12M AAV over Sneed?

My thoughts routinely bring me to re-signing Jones but I just don't FEEL like that is the direction KC will go, oddly enough.
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Old 02-10-2024, 06:17 AM   #126
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Hard to say what they do, but I hope they can both be retained.

Veach’s MO is to have a new “weakness” every year. It actually brilliant. We have a position group that is in need of being completely overhauled every year, and he does it masterfully. At the same time, all the teams trying to catch us really have no idea what type of team to build in response, and once they do, we kind of have a counter punch right of the bat because we never stay stressing the same thing for long.

They think our Oline is weak and stock up on pass rushers? Cool, we neutralize that in one offseason. Spending on DBs to limit our explosives? Now we don’t have a deep threat with tons of targets. Try to boat race us by loading up on offense when we show signs of slowing down? Okay, we just killed you with the run game and a top ranked defense you never saw coming. This shit ain’t checkers, it’s chess.

Not sure how that will affect two current strengths but do with that information what you will.


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Old 02-10-2024, 11:07 AM   #127
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Old 02-10-2024, 11:10 AM   #128
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Tyreek definitely coming back after his contract is up. He said it once he got traded that he will retire a chief. Sure looks like it

Been hoping so all along.
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Old 02-10-2024, 11:20 AM   #129
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Yeah, he'll restructure to convert some of it into bonus money, but Tom Brady was on bargain contracts (way under market value) most of his career, Mahomes after the raise he just got a few months ago is not in a comparable situation. The team friendly deal narrative didn't end up a reality.
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Tyreek definitely coming back after his contract is up. He said it once he got traded that he will retire a chief. Sure looks like it

I wouldn't welcome him back. He's going to be too old by then.
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Has anyone ever traded for a center before? If you get something of value I'd even consider trading Creed Humphrey in the offseason. There is no reason for us to pay a premium for center and Creed is one of the best centers in football. Under no circumstances should we sign anyone to play center above market average. We don't do the tush push. We are always in the top 10 or top 5 in passing percentage. It's just a luxury to have him at this point.
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Doing that with Mahomes contract moves money back that we will have to pay him. Not sure how that will work. I'm sure they have a plan though
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I dunno about Hill getting too old, even old he's faster than everyone.



But uh, you ever date a really intense partner and it is consuming and then you break up and suddenly you're like you know life sure is a lot easier without that person around?

And you're like yeah I think I'm good on getting back together and ruining the peace and quiet. A little of that with Tyreek. I don't need puff pieces about he wants to be a porn star or whatever
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Doing that with Mahomes contract moves money back that we will have to pay him. Not sure how that will work. I'm sure they have a plan though
Every other team seems to be finding ways to cheat the cap on their QB deals. Maybe KC is going to start playing some of the games the other teams seem to be playing.
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Mahomes' contract structure isn't some big secret. They specifically designed it to kick money down the line when they need to. They will do it again. They can free up as much as 28.7m by converting the roster bonus to a signing bonus. They can free up to another 5.9m if they want to **** with restructuring salary into a signing bonus.

If they cut MVS and Omenihu, they are already at 43m in space cand can get up to over 70m. So, the Chiefs CAN do what they want it's just an IF they really want to dump it all in. I don't think you do that unless you win it this year and specifically go for a 3-peat.
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