DC Comics "Suicide Squad" Cast Confirmed

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth

Warner screwed it and panicked.

After BvS, they actually hired an editor from the company that created the trailers and there was 2 cuts. Ayers cut and the other. Warner basically forced them to hack together parts of both cuts and was the reason for reshoots because combining the 2 was required to make the continuity work.

I have several friends that edit trailers, whether blockbusters or indie films.

It's absolutely nothing like editing a film, whatsoever, and they'll tell you that honestly and upfront. They're two completely different animals.

What a mess.

[Anyong Bluth]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I have several friends that edit trailers, whether blockbusters or indie films.

It's absolutely nothing like editing a film, whatsoever, and they'll tell you that honestly and upfront. They're two completely different animals.

What a mess.

Having done some editing in college, and as you mentioned in your last few posts, what may seem a dry job when compared to, say, director, couldn't be further from the truth.

Anyone who's done basic editing can appreciate how genius and talented a great editor can weave magic.

Take 20 clips of b roll and ask 10 people to put together a 30 second commercial. You'll be astonished at how much bland and obvious a lot of them will have in similarity. You'll be even more astonished when you see someone with an eye for editing and the subtle choices and using shots in a sequence that didn’t seem obvious to 90% of the everyone else.

Now, do it for a dozen hours of film shot, and slice it down to 90-120 minutes.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth

Having done some editing in college, and as you mentioned in your last few posts, what may seem a dry job when compared to, say, director, couldn't be further from the truth.

Anyone who's done basic editing can appreciate how genius and talented a great editor can weave magic.

Take 20 clips of b roll and ask 10 people to put together a 30 second commercial. You'll be astonished at how much bland and obvious a lot of them will have in similarity. You'll be even more astonished when you see someone with an eye for editing and the subtle choices and using shots in a sequence that didn’t seem obvious to 90% of the everyone else.

Now, do it for a dozen hours of film shot, and slice it down to 90-120 minutes.

I always find it hilarious when people with zero experience say they're going to purchase Final Cut Pro or Sony Vegas 14 or Premiere and become "an editor".

Uh, there's much more than video editing software to media of any type, whether it's a Feature Film, Documentary, Reality TV, Single or Multi-Camera TV and so on. There's this thing called "feel" and "instinct", not just chopping together a bunch of scenes.

And the crazy thing is that most of the editors that I know can't even really describe their process. One friend does blockbuster trailers, a few more do Reality, one's been at ABC/ESPN since 1979 and used to cut film back in the day, then worked on Avid, then Final Cut, then back to Avid.

But when asked to actually describe the job, it's a whole lot of "Well, I felt that this worked here and that worked there and we were able shape it from that point forwards".

I had neighbors in a small 12 unit townhome community back from 2000-2003 that turned a janitor's closet (it was literally like 10'x12', tops, maybe smaller) in the building into a video editing suite. I used to hang out with them at night just to watch them edit game trailers and movie trailers. It was a complete blast.

Now, they're the Co-Presidents of Ant Farm, one of the largest post houses in the world. They're uber successful but it's because they know what something should become, not because of an Avid rig.

[Anyong Bluth]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I always find it hilarious when people with zero experience say they're going to purchase Final Cut Pro or Sony Vegas 14 or Premiere and become "an editor".

Uh, there's much more than video editing software to media of any type, whether it's a Feature Film, Documentary, Reality TV, Single or Multi-Camera TV and so on. There's this thing called "feel" and "instinct", not just chopping together a bunch of scenes.

And the crazy thing is that most of the editors that I know can't even really describe their process. One friend does blockbuster trailers, a few more do Reality, one's been at ABC/ESPN since 1979 and used to cut film back in the day, then worked on Avid, then Final Cut, then back to Avid.

But when asked to actually describe the job, it's a whole lot of "Well, I felt that this worked here and that worked there and we were able shape it from that point forwards".

I had neighbors in a small 12 unit townhome community back from 2000-2003 that turned a janitor's closet (it was literally like 10'x12', tops, maybe smaller) in the building into a video editing suite. I used to hang out with them at night just to watch them edit game trailers and movie trailers. It was a complete blast.

Now, they're the Co-Presidents of Ant Farm, one of the largest post houses in the world. They're uber successful but it's because they know what something should become, not because of an Avid rig.

Awesome. Yes. Editors are rarely given the limelight or due credit. It's a perfect description of blending technical savvy, storytelling and gut instinct of someone who has a creative mind and eye for taking jumbled mess like a jigsaw puzzle.
The extraordinary ones can take the puzzle pieces of what was originally some boring picture, cut the pieces individually to refit them together and turn out a totally different, unique, and phenomenal picture unlike what was expected.

Ask Spielberg if he values his Editors.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth

Ask Spielberg if he values his Editors.

I have an old buddy, who was married to the VP of legal at Paramount (now she's at Uni) that edited all of the Farrelly Brothers films and was brought in to edit on Spielberg's "Minority Report".

Even though powerful editing systems like the Avid Composer and Media stations existed, Spielberg required his films (at least up until that point) to be edited, by hand, on a freakin' Moviola!

I have a close friend in my neighborhood that's 92 years old. He won several Clio awards for editing back in the late 60's and 70's (I've seen the awards in his beautiful home that has a view of the entire city) and his wife was a Hall of Fame, Oscar winning editor from the 60's through the 90's. Unfortunately, I never had a chance to meet her, as she passed from Alzheimer's about 9 years ago and was in a home for years before that.

But man, the stories!

[JD10367]

Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth

Awesome. Yes. Editors are rarely given the limelight or due credit. It's a perfect description of blending technical savvy, storytelling and gut instinct of someone who has a creative mind and eye for taking jumbled mess like a jigsaw puzzle.
The extraordinary ones can take the puzzle pieces of what was originally some boring picture, cut the pieces individually to refit them together and turn out a totally different, unique, and phenomenal picture unlike what was expected.

Ask Spielberg if he values his Editors.

I love the story about "Star Wars". On the first edit the screenings got horrible reviews. It was re-edited, IIRC, poolside by Lucas's wife and another dude (Richard Chew?). They went back to the footage and held everything for long shots, sometimes using every frame of negative (and sometimes running out... note the scene where the sandperson knocks Luke down and you can see them scrub the same image back and forth when he holds his staff over his head). They totally changed the flavor of the movie.