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Old 10-15-2017, 09:58 PM  
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How do you feel about NFL being sued by Kaepernick?

I am not doing a poll but this could could blowout the Players Union agreements and possibly become the beginning of the end of the NFL as we know it.

What are your thoughts?
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Old 10-16-2017, 08:35 PM   #151
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Kap is learning the hard lesson of "what comes around goes around".
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Old 10-16-2017, 08:37 PM   #152
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Collusion is impossible to prove.

To win, Kaepernick would need internal memos from at least two teams stating they wouldn’t sign him.

Unless someone provided said documents, he can’t win.
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Old 10-16-2017, 08:39 PM   #153
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Kap is learning the hard lesson of "what comes around goes around".
The owners will kneel to him?
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Old 10-16-2017, 08:44 PM   #154
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When you watch Matt Cassel take snaps, I don't think you can say he doesn't have a point. Or Kevin Hogan.

They ****ing suck dick. Collusion is taking place.
It is not collusion when teams want no part of the drama following him. Fans will quit spending money. Planes will fly banners. Not worth it.

Then add the fact his last couple games were bad. Then he would be rusty af.
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Old 10-16-2017, 08:56 PM   #155
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How in the hell does me pointing out that what you think the effect is existed before the cause and thereby can't be due to the cause?
Because productive college players don't always translate to NFL player. Your point is irrelevant.
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Old 10-16-2017, 09:01 PM   #156
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It is not collusion when teams want no part of the drama following him. Fans will quit spending money. Planes will fly banners. Not worth it.

Then add the fact his last couple games were bad. Then he would be rusty af.
We don't even know what proof they may or may not have

It could be bullshit or they've got some smoking gun. Colin might be stupid enough to proceed without, but a lawyer would probably want tangible evidence to file a claim like this. I don't think they're gonna win, but I'd like to see what is found in the discovery phase.
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Old 10-16-2017, 09:43 PM   #157
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Any of these guys know anything?

Ryan Grigson?
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Old 10-16-2017, 09:44 PM   #158
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Because productive college players don't always translate to NFL player. Your point is irrelevant.
That wasn't my point genious. That's why I used Nowhereville A&M and 500 yards. For ****s sake man.

Point is there a LOT of better options than Cassel. The name doesn't matter.

The point is the condition you think was caused by collusion existed prior to the collusion. Therefore the collusion cannot be the cause.

Come on man.
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Old 10-16-2017, 09:48 PM   #159
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Is he alleging that it's due to the national anthem thing? Because if it's happening, I think it's due to all of those stupid tattoos.
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Is he alleging that it's due to the national anthem thing? Because if it's happening, I think it's due to all of those stupid tattoos.
Or his stupid ****ing afro
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That wasn't my point genious. That's why I used Nowhereville A&M and 500 yards. For ****s sake man.

Point is there a LOT of better options than Cassel. The name doesn't matter.

The point is the condition you think was caused by collusion existed prior to the collusion. Therefore the collusion cannot be the cause.

Come on man.
That's great, but Cassel is just garbage and was garbage. Kap is an upgrade over a lot of backups and a handful of starters.

Don't think it's that hard to add a package of plays for him either.

I have a hunch there is collusion, but I don't think it's widespread and I really don't give a shit ultimately.

Lets just not let personal opinion try to persuade us that Kevin Hogan is a better option for any reason what so ever. He put up an Alex Smith type of season statistically in 16 and people are white knighting to keep a top 10 pick on the bench for him. For ****ing years.

Lets also not pretend there's no history of owners colluding.

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Old 10-16-2017, 11:57 PM   #162
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Old 10-17-2017, 12:26 AM   #163
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That's great, but Cassel is just garbage and was garbage. Kap is an upgrade over a lot of backups and a handful of starters.

Don't think it's that hard to add a package of plays for him either.

I have a hunch there is collusion, but I don't think it's widespread and I really don't give a shit ultimately.

Lets just not let personal opinion try to persuade us that Kevin Hogan is a better option for any reason what so ever. He put up an Alex Smith type of season statistically in 16 and people are white knighting to keep a top 10 pick on the bench for him. For ****ing years.

Lets also not pretend there's no history of owners colluding.
I agree with everything posted here. But you postulated that Cassel and Hogan were evidence of collusion.

There are lots of dudes better than Cassel. No different than when Kaep was employed. Accordingly nobody is going to convince me of collusion because there are shitty QBs in the league. GMs and coaches have been stupid for quite some time.
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Old 10-17-2017, 05:13 AM   #164
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Collusion is impossible to prove.

To win, Kaepernick would need internal memos from at least two teams stating they wouldn’t sign him.

Unless someone provided said documents, he can’t win.
From what I've heard.

If he appeals the arbitration, it goes to a federal court. Then a discovery might happen. That technically could then find something, but talk about a long shot.
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We don't even know what proof they may or may not have

It could be bullshit or they've got some smoking gun. Colin might be stupid enough to proceed without, but a lawyer would probably want tangible evidence to file a claim like this. I don't think they're gonna win, but I'd like to see what is found in the discovery phase.
He has Michael Jackson's attorney. The guy is supposedly one of the best in a courtroom.

Don't know what that means for this case except he does have really good legal help.
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