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Chief Roundup · 07-19-2016, 01:59 PM

http://espn.go.com/blog/kansas-city-...-three-seasons

In their three seasons under coach Andy Reid, the Kansas City Chiefs haven’t won a division title, but they’ve been an annual playoff contender, reaching the postseason twice as a wild-card entrant. They haven’t been able to advance in the postseason beyond the divisional round.

This interesting post suggests that for the foreseeable future, the next three seasons, the Chiefs are headed for more of the same.

ESPN ranked the prospects for each of the NFL’s 32 teams over the 2016, 2017 and 2018 seasons based on several factors, including the quality of the overall roster, quarterback, coaching, the draft, and the front office. The Chiefs are a respectable 11th, their strength according to this ranking being Reid’s coaching ability.

Eleventh doesn’t sound bad, but it doesn’t represent an improvement over what the Chiefs have been over the past three seasons. In the future rankings, the Chiefs are second in the AFC West behind the No. 9 Denver Broncos and sixth overall in the AFC.

That should sound familiar. The Chiefs have finished second to the Broncos in their division in each of Reid’s three seasons. They’ve been the fifth seed in the playoffs in each of their two postseason appearances.

Those Chiefs fans with long memories may not think of this pattern as being stuck in a rut. The Chiefs, after all, won no more than four games in four of the six seasons previous to Reid’s arrival, so these are prosperous times for Kansas City’s NFL team, relatively speaking.

Ultimately, though, they haven’t been fulfilling. And if the Chiefs follow up in the next three seasons with more of the same, even the most patient of their fans might come to think Kansas City was definitely stuck in a rut with Andy Reid as the head coach.

**Meatloaf** · 07-19-2016, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Come on.

The roster was shot and the QB worse than shit.

Not sure what's worse than shit, but I think you NAILED it as far as our QBs back then.

**Easy 6** · 07-19-2016, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Not really. We had hosted a playoff game just two years prior to the 2012 disaster. 7-9 and two ridiculously fluke-ish blocked field goals away from winning the division in 2011.

We had and still have those great locker room presences... but they were basically helpless when surrounded by so much incompetence

It was a historically bad era for this team - complete ineptitude - the headlines are still out there to dig up, there is nothing to argue about

Nitpick if you want and I wont argue, but this team was a gutted mess that had not had a comprehensive and winning strategic direction from the top down since Stram died, IMO

ThaVirus · 07-19-2016, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

We had and still have those great locker room presences... but they were basically helpless when surrounded by so much incompetence

It was a historically bad era for this team - complete ineptitude - the headlines are still out there to dig up, there is nothing to argue about

Nitpick if you want and I wont argue, but this team was a gutted mess that had not had a comprehensive and winning strategic direction from the top down since Stram died, IMO

The roster, outside of the 5-6 blue chips we had, was complete shit. I'm not arguing that and I don't think anyone would.

I'm saying we weren't Browns level bad. You have to be really bad for a really long time to make that distinction. If ever we reached that point it was during the Herm years.

**Meatloaf** · 07-19-2016, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

The roster, outside of the 5-6 blue chips we had, was complete shit. I'm not arguing that and I don't think anyone would.

I'm saying we weren't Browns level bad. You have to be really bad for a really long time to make that distinction. If ever we reached that point it was during the Herm years.

We were Browns-level bad in the late 70s. Those teams were B-A-D.

Chief Roundup · 07-19-2016, 07:25 PM

Some of it depends on the way people want to view things.
I like others think Teicher is being negative which means that he doesn't really see us improving all that much or not enough to accomplish more than what we currently have while under Reid.
The last time that this organization won 2 playoff games in a 6 year period was the early 90s and before that the late 60's. Although that is not great in some ways it would still be better than we have been in at least 23 years.
I think we will win a Division title this year and probably at least 1 more playoff game this season as well. Beyond that only time will tell because of countless possibilities.

ThaVirus · 07-19-2016, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Meatloaf

We were Browns-level bad in the late 70s. Those teams were B-A-D.

That was before my time. I've heard about the 60's squads but know virtually nothing about this team from 1970-1990. We must have blown some serious dicks.

**Meatloaf** · 07-19-2016, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

That was before my time. I've heard about the 60's squads but know virtually nothing about this team from 1970-1990. We must have blown some serious dicks.

In the late 70's our players were bad, our coaches were bad and our front office was bad. Trifecta of Dread.

Chief Roundup · 07-19-2016, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

That was before my time. I've heard about the 60's squads but know virtually nothing about this team from 1970-1990. We must have blown some serious dicks.

From 1974-1989 we were 94-144-2. We had one 10 win season, one 9 win season and three 8 win seasons.

**Gonzo** · 07-19-2016, 09:49 PM

You know, I almost miss Whitlock. Adam is a homer half the time, a doomsdayer the other half and a douchetastic moron all the time.

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-19-2016, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

The roster, outside of the 5-6 blue chips we had, was complete shit. I'm not arguing that and I don't think anyone would.

I'm saying we weren't Browns level bad. You have to be really bad for a really long time to make that distinction. If ever we reached that point it was during the Herm years.

Your analysis from watching a Black&White RCA console TV would have been spot on.

BlackOp · 07-19-2016, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

A good beat writer would at least give that side of the argument.

He's not a "good" beat writer...he's a paid NFL shill to keep a small market team out of the narrative.

Had the NY Giants won 11 in a row and won 30-0 in the play-offs..only to be decimated by injuries in the next game...this off-season would be nothing but hype.

KC...nary a word

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-19-2016, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp

He's not a "good" beat writer...he's a paid NFL shill to keep a small market team out of the narrative.

Had the NY Giants won 11 in a row and won 30-0 in the play-offs..only to be decimated by injuries in the next game...this off-season would be nothing but hype.

KC...nary a word

That's not on Teicher, that's on the small media market.

It's also on Clark Hunt.

BlackOp · 07-19-2016, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

That's not on Teicher, that's on the small media market.

It's also on Clark Hunt.

There was an ESPN article about the best new FA acquisitions in the AFCW this off-season. Teicher didn't even mention Mitchell Schwartz...he's the best pick-up in the entire division. Dude's paid to spread a negative narrative...

How does a supposed "beat writer" for a single team..neglect mentioning picking up a #1 rated o-lineman? It's deliberate...do you think Legworld would bring it up if the Donkos signed him?

eDave · 07-19-2016, 10:53 PM

You can't predict one year, much less three.

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-19-2016, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave

You can't predict one year, much less three.

Chiefs got

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Chief Roundup Admitted Planet Junky Join Date: Oct 2000 Casino cash: $2051627	Some of it depends on the way people want to view things. I like others think Teicher is being negative which means that he doesn't really see us improving all that much or not enough to accomplish more than what we currently have while under Reid. The last time that this organization won 2 playoff games in a 6 year period was the early 90s and before that the late 60's. Although that is not great in some ways it would still be better than we have been in at least 23 years. I think we will win a Division title this year and probably at least 1 more playoff game this season as well. Beyond that only time will tell because of countless possibilities. __________________ Fanaticism is nowhere. There is no tenderness or humanity in fanaticism.
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