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Chief Roundup · 07-19-2016, 01:59 PM

http://espn.go.com/blog/kansas-city-...-three-seasons

In their three seasons under coach Andy Reid, the Kansas City Chiefs haven’t won a division title, but they’ve been an annual playoff contender, reaching the postseason twice as a wild-card entrant. They haven’t been able to advance in the postseason beyond the divisional round.

This interesting post suggests that for the foreseeable future, the next three seasons, the Chiefs are headed for more of the same.

ESPN ranked the prospects for each of the NFL’s 32 teams over the 2016, 2017 and 2018 seasons based on several factors, including the quality of the overall roster, quarterback, coaching, the draft, and the front office. The Chiefs are a respectable 11th, their strength according to this ranking being Reid’s coaching ability.

Eleventh doesn’t sound bad, but it doesn’t represent an improvement over what the Chiefs have been over the past three seasons. In the future rankings, the Chiefs are second in the AFC West behind the No. 9 Denver Broncos and sixth overall in the AFC.

That should sound familiar. The Chiefs have finished second to the Broncos in their division in each of Reid’s three seasons. They’ve been the fifth seed in the playoffs in each of their two postseason appearances.

Those Chiefs fans with long memories may not think of this pattern as being stuck in a rut. The Chiefs, after all, won no more than four games in four of the six seasons previous to Reid’s arrival, so these are prosperous times for Kansas City’s NFL team, relatively speaking.

Ultimately, though, they haven’t been fulfilling. And if the Chiefs follow up in the next three seasons with more of the same, even the most patient of their fans might come to think Kansas City was definitely stuck in a rut with Andy Reid as the head coach.

**SAUTO** · 07-19-2016, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Chiefs have gotten better and better every year during this regime.

An AFCW division winner+1 playoff win is the floor for this season.

11-5

9-7

11-5

It's good especially compared to previous years but it's in no way "improving every year"

staylor26 · 07-19-2016, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

11-5

9-7

11-5

It's good especially compared to previous years but it's in no way "improving every year"

Wrong.

In terms of record, yes. Not much improvement at all there, but the team has clearly gotten better from year to year.

We couldn't beat playoff teams in the first year, despite the record. The following year, we beat the two teams that went on to play in the SB.

Last year we finally beat Denver (should've been twice), and finally won a playoff game.

RunKC · 07-19-2016, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

I just flat out can't stand Teicher. I don't know how many of you saw it, but at the beginning of the offseason he was questioning Dorsey and basically said "So, you've had some pretty good offseasons since you've been here, but everything is lining up for you to fail this time." (Howard and Smith leaving, losing our 3rd).

What does Dorsey go on to do? Have another really good offseason by getting Howard back on a great deal and picking up Schwartz with some of the money he saved by not signing Smith (on another great deal). Then he makes the moves in the draft to get back the value he lost with the tampering charges while adding a really nice chunk of talent to the roster.

And here Teicher is still waiting for everything to collapse with his doom and gloom bullshit. He's a ****ing joke and clearly has a negative bias in the mold of Clay.

Terez is the best Chiefs writer in KC. Mellinger is pretty fair most of the time.

O.city · 07-19-2016, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Wrong.

In terms of record, yes. Not much improvement at all there, but the team has clearly gotten better from year to year.

We couldn't beat playoff teams in the first year, despite the record. The following year, we beat the two teams that went on to play in the SB.

Last year we finally beat Denver (should've been twice), and finally won a playoff game.

Theyve gotta take the next step this year and beat good teams on the road. That's been a stumbling block that's kept them from winning the division.

**SAUTO** · 07-19-2016, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Wrong.

In terms of record, yes. Not much improvement at all there, but the team has clearly gotten better from year to year.

We couldn't beat playoff teams in the first year, despite the record. The following year, we beat the two teams that went on to play in the SB.

Last year we finally beat Denver (should've been twice), and finally won a playoff game.

ok buddy.

staylor26 · 07-19-2016, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

ok buddy.

The only thing that's arguable is year 1 to year 2. I can see why you might feel that way, but I disagree. There should be no argument about year 2 to year 3.

Mr. Laz · 07-19-2016, 05:25 PM

Coaching was absolutely the reason we improved in Reid's first couple of years in KC.

Now it's Dorsey.

Still waiting to see if Reid can keep up or if he's just an offensive minded Shottenheimer.

**Easy 6** · 07-19-2016, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Wrong.

In terms of record, yes. Not much improvement at all there, but the team has clearly gotten better from year to year.

We couldn't beat playoff teams in the first year, despite the record. The following year, we beat the two teams that went on to play in the SB.

Last year we finally beat Denver (should've been twice), and finally won a playoff game.

Must say I agree here

People might sometimes forget just what exactly was inherited by this regime... a franchise at its historical bottom

Immediately turning that around into 3 consecutive winning seasons and reaching all kinds of important milestones along the way tells me what I need to know about Dorsey and co

And I'm not buying "all the talent they inherited"... yes they inherited studs in every team category, but we all know it was a top heavy and ultimately empty roster that couldnt do SHIT right

Lets not even get going on the losing culture that had set in here... we were RIGHT there with the Browns of the league and we all know it

This current team has depth, swagger and talent all OVER the place

Dont like Smiff? just wait, he isnt getting any younger

When you've seen some of the very worst, the good ones truly stand out

Hog's Gone Fishin · 07-19-2016, 05:48 PM

This is a different Chiefs team than we have EVER had, well, the last forty years. Under Schotty we were good on Defense but our Offense sucked. Under Vermeil Our offense was great but our defense sucked. Now we have the most complete team we've ever fielded. And special teams ain't too shabby either.

The only thing that sucks now is Teicher.

Sandy Vagina · 07-19-2016, 05:48 PM

The talent is definitely better than it's ever been under Andy in KC. Losing Sean Smith is a tough one, but adding Schwartz balances that and then some, imo.

I don't fully remember what went wrong in 2012, but in the other years.. playoff years.. the Chiefs just had some brutal injuries at critical positions that sabotaged them going further.

**Buzz** · 07-19-2016, 06:22 PM

If we can stay healthy and not have cancer, blown knees and concussions to star players, I like our chances. Denver may be questionable at quarterback, defense will carry that team.

ThaVirus · 07-19-2016, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

Lets not even get going on the losing culture that had set in here... we were RIGHT there with the Browns of the league and we all know it

Not really. We had hosted a playoff game just two years prior to the 2012 disaster. 7-9 and two ridiculously fluke-ish blocked field goals away from winning the division in 2011.

**Meatloaf** · 07-19-2016, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

This is a different Chiefs team than we have EVER had, well, the last forty years. Under Schotty we were good on Defense but our Offense sucked. Under Vermeil Our offense was great but our defense sucked. Now we have the most complete team we've ever fielded. And special teams ain't too shabby either.

The only thing that sucks now is Teicher.

Agree with you Hog. This team is solid top to bottom. Secondary is young, but we have a bunch of new talent - hoping that with good coaching (and our secondary coaches are great), one or two of these guys could be pretty darned good.

This team is gonna be hard to beat.

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-19-2016, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Not really. We had hosted a playoff game just two years prior to the 2012 disaster. 7-9 and two ridiculously fluke-ish blocked field goals away from winning the division in 2011.

Come on.

The roster was shot and the QB worse than shit.

ThaVirus · 07-19-2016, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Come on.

The roster was shot and the QB worse than shit.

No doubt about it.

We weren't Browns-level bad, though.

07-19-2016, 01:59 PM
Chief Roundup Admitted Planet Junky Join Date: Oct 2000 Casino cash: $2051627	Chiefs got better times ahead in the next 3 seasons??? http://espn.go.com/blog/kansas-city-...-three-seasons In their three seasons under coach Andy Reid, the Kansas City Chiefs haven’t won a division title, but they’ve been an annual playoff contender, reaching the postseason twice as a wild-card entrant. They haven’t been able to advance in the postseason beyond the divisional round. This interesting post suggests that for the foreseeable future, the next three seasons, the Chiefs are headed for more of the same. ESPN ranked the prospects for each of the NFL’s 32 teams over the 2016, 2017 and 2018 seasons based on several factors, including the quality of the overall roster, quarterback, coaching, the draft, and the front office. The Chiefs are a respectable 11th, their strength according to this ranking being Reid’s coaching ability. Eleventh doesn’t sound bad, but it doesn’t represent an improvement over what the Chiefs have been over the past three seasons. In the future rankings, the Chiefs are second in the AFC West behind the No. 9 Denver Broncos and sixth overall in the AFC. That should sound familiar. The Chiefs have finished second to the Broncos in their division in each of Reid’s three seasons. They’ve been the fifth seed in the playoffs in each of their two postseason appearances. Those Chiefs fans with long memories may not think of this pattern as being stuck in a rut. The Chiefs, after all, won no more than four games in four of the six seasons previous to Reid’s arrival, so these are prosperous times for Kansas City’s NFL team, relatively speaking. Ultimately, though, they haven’t been fulfilling. And if the Chiefs follow up in the next three seasons with more of the same, even the most patient of their fans might come to think Kansas City was definitely stuck in a rut with Andy Reid as the head coach.
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Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	Coaching was absolutely the reason we improved in Reid's first couple of years in KC. Now it's Dorsey. Still waiting to see if Reid can keep up or if he's just an offensive minded Shottenheimer. __________________
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Hog's Gone Fishin Fish are scared of me Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1690477	This is a different Chiefs team than we have EVER had, well, the last forty years. Under Schotty we were good on Defense but our Offense sucked. Under Vermeil Our offense was great but our defense sucked. Now we have the most complete team we've ever fielded. And special teams ain't too shabby either. The only thing that sucks now is Teicher.
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Buzz I like Pie! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In my garage Casino cash: $10016623	If we can stay healthy and not have cancer, blown knees and concussions to star players, I like our chances. Denver may be questionable at quarterback, defense will carry that team.
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