Late night bullshit: drafting Geno now? Almost as big a coup as getting Montana in 93

[Direckshun]

Andy Reid has long been capable of thinking outside the box, and his track record backs that up. But acquiring Alex Smith for two 2nds for the sole purpose of giving the #1 overall guy time to develop would be among the most ambitious ideas he's ever had.

Nonetheless, I believe the Chiefs could be shifting in that direction. They've clung to WR Dwayne Bowe, they've tagged LT Branden Albert, they're on the verge of signing CB Sean Smith to start across from Flowers, and they have reached out to DE/DT Chris Canty (and in my hypothetical, as we've all long believed, Poe's talents might be better suited at DE anyway).

So it becomes official, then: unless the Chiefs do not actually find a single starting-caliber DE, they are simply not drafting to plug a hole with the #1 overall pick. Therefore, they can simply make the pick that helps them the most in the long run -- because if there is a single pick in the NFL Draft that should be made with the long run exclusively in mind, it's the first overall.

HC Andy Reid and GM John Dorsey talked down the QBs in this draft for weeks ever since they were ushered in by team owner Clark Hunt. But that was before the Combine, which had to have been a game changer. New WRs coach David Culley was on the turf at the RCA Dome as he asked all the QBs to throw very specific passes, one after another, to the WRs he was observing. And what was supposed to be a drill to determine WR talent actually determined the QB position once and for all. Quick outs, deep post runs, back shoulder bombs... All of the QBs had some good throws, most of them had off throws, and a good number of them were just terrible. Only one QB really separated himself with Croyle-esque darts on the short throws and beautiful Rodgers-esque accuracy on the deep balls.

Every pass. "Good throw!" "Great throw!" "Now that's a pass!" With a Chiefs coach literally five feet from him, Geno hit every single pass he was asked to deliver, on rhythm. Is there any doubt Culley raved to Reid when they convened later that afternoon? It had to immediately make them reassess.

They had long known this guy was not a world beater at West Virginia. He was a machine some games but lacked the drive to will his team to victories in other games. And West Virginia's coaching staff is said to be one of the least friendly and hospitable to NFL personnel in terms of sharing in formation. But with no filter between them and Geno, they saw his tools -- he was athletic, healthy, good natured, strong, and lest there be any doubt: one hell of a passer.

While they weren't sure that this guy is the future of the Chiefs, they became more willing than ever to find out. They made an incredibly aggressive move to lock down Alex Smith so Geno could ostensibly feel zero pressure as the Chiefs staff begins to groom him, all the while Alex Smith keeps the Chiefs competitive and helps Geno's apparent need to better absorb coaching (thanks, Mariucci). They made sure that any Chiefs QB for the next five years has the best WR in team history to throw to, and locked down Albert for the year, and hopefully for years beyond. Meanwhile, they made aggressive, potentially illegal moves to fill the teams neediest positions at CB and DE.

In short, Andy Reid came to Kansas City because he knew the talent was already amazing, save for one shitty exception at the team's most important position, and he used the best leverage he had at his disposal to fix it in the short and long term.

Should Andy Reid land this pick, he will perhaps have landed the team's biggest coup since Carl Peterson traded for Joe Montana in 1993.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

He's just so inconsistent and wildly inaccurate at times.

I'm sure so some coach will think he can fix him. I just hope it's not Andy Reid.

Buffalo's GM loves him.

And it's his footwork when he uses proper technique he looks great, It's when he starts losing his mechanics and throwing off his back foot that he looks awful.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Buffalo's GM loves him.

And it's his footwork when he uses proper technique he looks great, It's when he starts losing his mechanics and throwing off his back foot that he looks awful.

I know. But Buddy Nix signed Fitzpatrick to a huge extension, so I don't know why he still has a job.

[Mecca]

Well he got to hire a new coach so he seems to be in place for awhile...

[Lex Luthor]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

So you actually believe that the Chiefs will draft Geno Smith #1 overall, and spend their first and second round picks on quarterbacks?



You people are ****ing delusional

Are you aware of how much the Redskins gave up to draft RG3 and Kirk Cousins?

Two first round picks, a second round pick, and a fourth round pick. Apparently Mike Shanarat thinks that stockpiling quarterbacks is more important than stockpiling draft picks to be used on lower impact positions.

Giving up a first round pick and two second round picks may be more than you think the Chiefs should give up, but it's certainly not unprecedented. A fan who hopes that happens may be disappointed on draft day, but it's a pretty big stretch to label him delusional.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yeah, it's "gold".

You've never had a single, creative thought of your own since you joined this forum and were banned multiple times.

You just keep returning to hug someone elses nuts.

Good luck with that.

And your head is so far up your own goddamned ****, you can probably taste blood. Go **** yourself, sport-o.
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[keg in kc]

Ain't happening.

[okcchief]

So much delusion in this thread.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

The Curse of CoMo shall NOT be denied.
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[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie

The Curse of CoMo shall NOT be denied.
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Somewhere Manti Teo weeps silently after getting off his imaginary phone conversation with Dorsey offering him eleventy billion dollars to be picked 1-1.

[Wildcat2005]

Originally Posted by Brainiac

Are you aware of how much the Redskins gave up to draft RG3 and Kirk Cousins?

Two first round picks, a second round pick, and a fourth round pick. Apparently Mike Shanarat thinks that stockpiling quarterbacks is more important than stockpiling draft picks to be used on lower impact positions.

Giving up a first round pick and two second round picks may be more than you think the Chiefs should give up, but it's certainly not unprecedented. A fan who hopes that happens may be disappointed on draft day, but it's a pretty big stretch to label him delusional.

They gave up all of that for Griffin, to be the future of the franchise
Cousins was just a value 4th round pick for competition
The redskins did not give up premium picks for a stopgap

Why would a team with the worst record in the league give up multiple 2nd round picks(or a 2nd and 3rd) for a 1 year stopgap player?

How is 1 year of Alex Smith worth the 34th overal pick in the draft + a 2nd or 3rd rounder? Especially for a team that is more than a qb away from being a contender

I just highly highly doubt this is the strategy used by the Chiefs FO
We are not talking about a hall of famer at the end of his career trying to make one more run ala Favre and Manning
Just seems like way too much compensation given up for a player to then turn around and draft his replacement

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by PGM

Somewhere Manti Teo weeps silently after getting off his imaginary phone conversation with Dorsey offering him eleventy billion dollars to be picked 1-1.

lolz...
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[Lex Luthor]

Originally Posted by Wildcat2005

They gave up all of that for Griffin, to be the future of the franchise
Cousins was just a value 4th round pick for competition
The redskins did not give up premium picks for a stopgap

Why would a team with the worst record in the league give up multiple 2nd round picks(or a 2nd and 3rd) for a 1 year stopgap player?

How is 1 year of Alex Smith worth the 34th overal pick in the draft + a 2nd or 3rd rounder? Especially for a team that is more than a qb away from being a contender

I just highly highly doubt this is the strategy used by the Chiefs FO
We are not talking about a hall of famer at the end of his career trying to make one more run ala Favre and Manning
Just seems like way too much compensation given up for a player to then turn around and draft his replacement

Nobody knows exactly what the compensation is.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Andy Reid has long been capable of thinking outside the box, and his track record backs that up. But acquiring Alex Smith for two 2nds for the sole purpose of giving the #1 overall guy time to develop would be among the most ambitious ideas he's ever had.

It would definitely show the most desire to improve the QB position since 93...

[Wildcat2005]

Originally Posted by Brainiac

Nobody knows exactly what the compensation is.

95% of the reports are saying the 34th pick + a 2nd or 3rd next year

So we have a ballpark idea of the compensation

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Wildcat2005

95% of the reports are saying the 34th pick + a 2nd or 3rd next year

So we have a ballpark idea of the compensation

If CP can tell a HC he's been fired I'm sure there's a leak or two at 1 Arrowhead...