New York Soda Drinkers, REJOICE!

[KC_Lee]

Originally Posted by Omaha

Those are obviously all bad choices. Are you trying to make a point about something?

You're all over the board here. First, you seem to suggest that making comments about fat people is some how racist or bigoted and now you're dragging alcoholics and druggies into the discussion to somehow make fat people seem less lazy?

As someone who has struggled with his own weight and health it pisses me off when the fat = lazy BS gets spewed.

And my initial point was, and still is, that people with wieght problems are viewed as less of a person. Same way various groups (blacks, Irish, etc.) have been viewed throughout history.

Are there fat people out there that are lazy slobs that would rather eat a bag of chips vs. get up and take a walk? You bet. However, people tend to paint with a broad brush.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by KC_Lee

As someone who has struggled with his own weight and health it pisses me off when the fat = lazy BS gets spewed.

And my initial point was, and still is, that people with wieght problems are viewed as less of a person. Same way various groups (blacks, Irish, etc.) have been viewed throughout history.

Are there fat people out there that are lazy slobs that would rather eat a bag of chips vs. get up and take a walk? You bet. However, people tend to paint with a broad brush.

There are always exceptions to the rule, but we shouldn't use those exceptions to rationalize unhealthy behavior.

[Omaha]

Originally Posted by KC_Lee

As someone who has struggled with his own weight and health it pisses me off when the fat = lazy BS gets spewed.

And my initial point was, and still is, that people with wieght problems are viewed as less of a person. Same way various groups (blacks, Irish, etc.) have been viewed throughout history.

NO! First, these other groups are absolutely NOT viewed as "less of a person" by anyone who isn't an ignorant moron. Second, it is not the same. Not at all. Not in any way.

Originally Posted by KC_Lee

Are there fat people out there that are lazy slobs that would rather eat a bag of chips vs. get up and take a walk? You bet. However, people tend to paint with a broad brush.

Calories in / Calories out. Every time. Whatever the reason, painted with any brush, it always comes down to this.

[Canofbier]

Originally Posted by KC_Lee

As someone who has struggled with his own weight and health it pisses me off when the fat = lazy BS gets spewed.

And my initial point was, and still is, that people with wieght problems are viewed as less of a person. Same way various groups (blacks, Irish, etc.) have been viewed throughout history.

Are there fat people out there that are lazy slobs that would rather eat a bag of chips vs. get up and take a walk? You bet. However, people tend to paint with a broad brush.

I'm a person with a legitimate physical propensity to gain weight (hypothyroidism), and although I empathize with you, I don't agree entirely. Once I committed myself to it, I lost over 100 lbs and have more or less kept it off. See my pictures in the "Faces and names" thread in the Media Center: I am in very good shape, and all it took was a closer look at my diet and increased physical activity, two things everyone ought to do anyway.

There are SO many people who claim to have "tried everything", but never made a true effort to change themselves for the better. The negative perception of people who are obese is driven mostly (at least in my case) by a judgement of their personality. If you're fat and happy, then good for you, but I don't want to hear you whine about it if you're not making a concerted effort to do something about it.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Canofbier

There are SO many people who claim to have "tried everything", but never made a true effort to change themselves for the better. The negative perception of people who are obese is driven mostly (at least in my case) by a judgement of their personality. If you're fat and happy, then good for you, but I don't want to hear you whine about it if you're not making a concerted effort to do something about it.

You summed it up nicely.

[KC_Lee]

Originally Posted by Canofbier

I'm a person with a legitimate physical propensity to gain weight (hypothyroidism), and although I empathize with you, I don't agree entirely. Once I committed myself to it, I lost over 100 lbs and have more or less kept it off. See my pictures in the "Faces and names" thread in the Media Center: I am in very good shape, and all it took was a closer look at my diet and increased physical activity, two things everyone ought to do anyway.

There are SO many people who claim to have "tried everything", but never made a true effort to change themselves for the better. The negative perception of people who are obese is driven mostly (at least in my case) by a judgement of their personality. If you're fat and happy, then good for you, but I don't want to hear you whine about it if you're not making a concerted effort to do something about it.

Agree with you 100%. And don't get me wrong; I know there are a high number of folks out there that simply don't want to put out the effort to get healthy. Both my wife and I made a choice to get healthier 4 years ago. Been slow going at times and there have been set backs but we soldiered on together. Slow progress is still progress.

Likewise, I am 100% opposed to the soda ban. Too much of a slippery slope for my tastes, no pun intended.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by KC_Lee

Agree with you 100%. And don't get me wrong; I know there are a high number of folks out there that simply don't want to put out the effort to get healthy. Both my wife and I made a choice to get healthier 4 years ago. Been slow going at times and there have been set backs but we soldiered on together. Slow progress is still progress.

Likewise, I am 100% opposed to the soda ban. Too much of a slippery slope for my tastes, no pun intended.

Keep up the good work. You will be amazed at how much your energy level will improve the closer you get to your ideal weight.

[Omaha]

Originally Posted by KC_Lee

Agree with you 100%. And don't get me wrong; I know there are a high number of folks out there that simply don't want to put out the effort to get healthy. Both my wife and I made a choice to get healthier 4 years ago. Been slow going at times and there have been set backs but we soldiered on together. Slow progress is still progress.

Likewise, I am 100% opposed to the soda ban. Too much of a slippery slope for my tastes, no pun intended.

I agree. I hate the idea of government banning pretty much any consumer goods. If everyone would just stop buying that shit, they'd stop making it. That's how it should work.

Congrats on your slow & steady progress getting back in shape. I understand what you are dealing with. I sit at a desk all damn day and I gain weight like nobody's business when I get lazy with exercise & diet.