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Old 03-21-2013, 06:45 PM  
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How good, exactly, is Branden Albert.
Here's a list of the starting left tackles from last year, according to NFL.com:

Nate Solder (Patriots)
D'Brickashaw Ferguson (Jets)
Jake Long (Dolphins)
Cordy Glenn (Bills)

Bryant McKinnie (Ravens)
Max Starks (Steelers)
Andrew Whitworth (Bengals)
Joe Thomas (Browns)

Anthony Castonzo (Colts)
Eugene Monroe (Jaguars)
Michael Roos (Titans)
Duane Brown (Texans)

Branden Albert (Chiefs)
Ryan Clady (Broncos)
Michael Harris (Chargers)
Jared Veldeer (Raiders)

Will Beatty (Giants)
Tyron Smith (Cowboys)
Trent Williams (Redskins)
King Dunlap (Eagles)

J'Marcus Webb (Bears)
Marshall Newhouse (Packers)
Jeff Backus (Lions)
Matt Kalil (Vikings)

Jerman Bushrod (Saints)
Donald Penn (Buccaneers)
Jordan Gross (Panthers)
Sam Baker (Falcons)

Joe Staley (49ers)
Levi Brown (Cardinals)
Russell Okung (Seahawks)
Roger Saffold (Rams)

You want to call Branden Albert a top 10 LT? Then list specifically where he lands in this list.

Keep in mind, we're probably going to have at least three new ones next year in Bryan Bulaga (Packers), Mike Adams (if he can beat out Starks in Pittsburgh), Luke Joeckel (whomever drafts him) and Eric Fisher (same).
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Old 03-21-2013, 06:57 PM   #16
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He's a tad overrated on this board IMO due to some obvious homerism....he's still very good though.
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Old 03-21-2013, 06:57 PM   #17
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**** it, let's just turn this into a Joeckel thread.

That's all you neanderthals want to talk about. So **** it.

If Branden Albert has started left tackle for the Aggies last year, I'm guessing his performance would have been almost exactly the same as Joeckel's. Except the run game would have been kicking even more ass on his side.
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Old 03-21-2013, 06:57 PM   #18
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All things being equal (money, health) I'd rather take:

Ferguson
Long
Roos
Clady
Thomas
Penn
Gross
Whitworth
Okung
Wow, thats just a bizarre underestimation.

note to self* devalue future PFF ratings on Albert.
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Old 03-21-2013, 06:58 PM   #19
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He should be about on par with Albert, yes. It's hard to project folks compared to just ranking what you've seen, but there it is.

If you put Brandon Albert on Texas A&M this past year, he would have similarly dominated.
Wut?

You have it backwards...how would Joekel do as an NFL LT is the question that can't be answered.
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Old 03-21-2013, 06:58 PM   #20
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Direckshun, wanna make a bet?

I say that Luke Joeckel, provided he starts 14+ games, will allow 7 sacks or more this season.

If he doesn't start a minimum of 14 games, the bet is off.
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Old 03-21-2013, 06:59 PM   #21
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Wut?

You have it backwards...how would Joekel do as an NFL LT is the question that can't be answered.
No way dude.

Joeckel DOMINATED college. Albert has been one of the best LT's in the NFL... ON PAR!
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**** it, let's just turn this into a Joeckel thread.

That's all you neanderthals want to talk about. So **** it.

If Branden Albert has started left tackle for the Aggies last year, I'm guessing his performance would have been almost exactly the same as Joeckel's. Except the run game would have been kicking even more ass on his side.
So A&M was an NFL team playing other NFL teams how?
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Wut?

You have it backwards...how would Joekel do as an NFL LT is the question that can't be answered.
Now we're cooking with gas. All Joeckel, all the ****ing time.

That question actually can be answered, and probably will be in about five months.

Joeckel's athleticism, measureables, and level of domination at college level projects very comfortably to being an above average LT in the NFL.
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He should be about on par with Albert, yes. It's hard to project folks compared to just ranking what you've seen, but there it is.

If you put Brandon Albert on Texas A&M this past year, he would have similarly dominated.
My point is next year Joeckel will get his ass handed to him it took Albert 3 years to be LT he is now. Joeckel doesn't have near the athletic ability that Albert has so what you see the next two years is as good as it's going to get when it comes to overall growth and potential.
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Old 03-21-2013, 07:00 PM   #26
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Direckshun, wanna make a bet?

I say that Luke Joeckel, provided he starts 14+ games, will allow 7 sacks or more this season.

If he doesn't start a minimum of 14 games, the bet is off.
Name your rewards/punishment.
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Old 03-21-2013, 07:02 PM   #27
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My point is next year Joeckel will get his ass handed to him it took Albert 3 years to be LT he is now. Joeckel doesn't have near the athletic ability that Albert has so what you see the next two years is as good as it's going to get when it comes to overall growth and potential.
Joeckel will be a rookie LT. He's going to see a ton of heat.

He will perform admirably, as Kalil did this past year. I expect the same performance out of him.
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All things being equal (money, health) I'd rather take:

Ferguson
Long
Roos
Clady
Thomas
Penn
Gross
Whitworth
Okung

I'd say he's about on par with:

McKinnie
Kalil
Beatty
D. Brown
Bushrod
Staley
Joeckel

I'd rather have him then:

Solder
Glenn
Starks
Castonzo
Monroe
Harris
Veldeer
Smith
Dunlap
Webb
Newhouse
Backus
Baker
L. Brown
Saffold
Bulaga
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Fisher
I seriously doubt you have any idea as to the talent levels of 80-90% of those on that list. You haven't watched tape of all those assholes. You're just pulling this out of your rectum.
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Now we're cooking with gas. All Joeckel, all the ****ing time.

That question actually can be answered, and probably will be in about five months.

Joeckel's athleticism, measureables, and level of domination at college level projects very comfortably to being an above average LT in the NFL.
Key word.

Either way, letting Albert walk or even getting compensation through a trade isn't helping this team. We still need a LT and have a proven one that is very very good. We've been searching for stability at LT since Roaf retired, we finally have it....pay Albert and draft another need.
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