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Old 04-30-2017, 08:25 AM  
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Ryan Leaf has turned into a fine person
His OTL aired today and it was very good. Nice to see him turn his life around. I highly recommend giving it a look.
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Old 04-30-2017, 02:26 PM   #31
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Good for him. There is lots of good quarterbacks but that story will be unique for sure.
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Old 04-30-2017, 02:44 PM   #32
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Thought-provoking read from him here:

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/ry...-younger-self/

He seems to have realized what an ass he was.
Good read.
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Old 04-30-2017, 04:53 PM   #33
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Thought-provoking read from him here:

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/ry...-younger-self/

He seems to have realized what an ass he was.
Interesting read. There's still some ego coded in there, but that's understandable.

I feel sorry for guys with the "bust" label, especially quarterbacks. We've all had our own failures, but most of us can escape them because they're not broadcast constantly to the world.
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Old 04-30-2017, 06:00 PM   #34
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Interesting read. There's still some ego coded in there, but that's understandable.

I feel sorry for guys with the "bust" label, especially quarterbacks. We've all had our own failures, but most of us can escape them because they're not broadcast constantly to the world.
Can you elaborate on this? I read the entire article and caught fragments of the same vibe, but I can't pinpoint exactly why....
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Old 04-30-2017, 06:54 PM   #35
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Can you elaborate on this? I read the entire article and caught fragments of the same vibe, but I can't pinpoint exactly why....
Yeah, it's hard to pinpoint, and to some extent it may be fair. At one point he had a lot to be prideful about. There were just a few comments like saying his brother would've given anything to be like him, and some comments that the external environment made him into a jerk, that kind of rub me wrong as a reader. The same environment didn't do the same thing to others.

But that's just a minor quibble. I hope he thrives going forward.
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Old 04-30-2017, 07:21 PM   #36
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Isn't this like the 3rd time he's had to get his shit together? I remember watching Real Sports like 10+ years ago and how great he was doing. Then he gets busted for stealing prescription meds out of someone's cabinet or w/e.
Drug addiction never ends.
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Old 04-30-2017, 07:36 PM   #37
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Interesting read. There's still some ego coded in there ...
I think I detect it right about here:

"The real Ryan Leaf is comfortable in his own skin and doesn’t care what anybody thinks about him, as long as he feels good about himself.

Fact is, Ryan, that it's never really been about you and how you feel about yourself. If it was really all about that, the only trick you'd have had to learn was how to feel good about being an asshole.

Glad you aren't trying to be one anymore, though. You sound like you're a work in progress, and that's good enough.
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Old 04-30-2017, 08:24 PM   #38
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Drug addiction never ends.
Exactly. My friend beat alcoholism. It took him probably a good year of quitting and relapsing but eventually he beat it.

Those who really want to quit will keep trying no matter how many times they screw up. You have to be determined and learn from your mistakes otherwise you stand no chance.

It seems like Ryan Leaf is the epitome of what I just said so hopefully he finally beats his addiction because he is a celebrity so a lot of people are going to look to him as an example. But most importantly he needs to do it for himself because living as an addict who uses is hell.
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Watched the ESPN piece. Never thought I'd be impressed by Ryan Leaf, but I am.
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Drug addiction never ends.
sure it does, i was a drug addict and i quit from one day to the next. Its been 22 years now. I never have touched it, and i have 0 desire to touch it, and i will NEVER touch that stuff EVER again. The hard drugs i stopped, i drank a little after that, but maybe a year tops.

Once you tell yourself thats it never ends, you give yourself an out to **** up again thinking its ok. Its not. Tell yourself, it ends. make it absolute. Is it hard? sure, but dont give yourself and inch, you will move it 10 feet.
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