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Old 02-04-2013, 10:17 AM   #1
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Plays don't get blown dead for holding calls. Maybe they should be in a situation like that, but the play still would have gone to its conclusion even if a flag was thrown.

On the other hand, though, what if the punter tripped over his own feet and fumbled and the refs had whistled it dead?
The play shouldn't be blown dead. Let the play run, but when the flag is thrown the opposing team gets the choice to decline, or take the penalty and put the time back on the clock.
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:05 AM   #2
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Didn't matter AT ALL. A holding call would have resulted in a safety. Hell, John could have told his players to tackle all of the 49ers players and it wouldn't have changed anything. Really smart players probably held as much as they could that play.
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:07 AM   #3
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Didn't matter AT ALL. A holding call would have resulted in a safety. Hell, John could have told his players to tackle all of the 49ers players and it wouldn't have changed anything. Really smart players probably held as much as they could that play.
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:10 AM   #4
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Didn't matter AT ALL. A holding call would have resulted in a safety. Hell, John could have told his players to tackle all of the 49ers players and it wouldn't have changed anything. Really smart players probably held as much as they could that play.
It would have resulted in more time on the clock, I believe. Which was, after all, the point of the play.
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:13 AM   #5
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It would have resulted in more time on the clock, I believe. Which was, after all, the point of the play.
What? A holding call wouldn't have resulted in more time on the clock. They never put back time on the clock at anytime.
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:13 AM   #6
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It would have resulted in more time on the clock, I believe. Which was, after all, the point of the play.
The play doesn't stop with the hold. The play stops when the player is down.

Holding calls are enforced after the play, therefore the time left on the clock would not have been affected.
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:19 AM   #7
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The play doesn't stop with the hold. The play stops when the player is down.

Holding calls are enforced after the play, therefore the time left on the clock would not have been affected.
Well, never mind then. I thought that since a penalty effectively "wipes out" a play, the time the play used would not count.
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Didn't matter AT ALL. A holding call would have resulted in a safety. Hell, John could have told his players to tackle all of the 49ers players and it wouldn't have changed anything. Really smart players probably held as much as they could that play.
Yea at that point, it was about taking as many seconds off the clock as possible. Penalties be damned.
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Wow, 29 is going to get his ass destroyed by the NFL.


He went after an official?
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:36 AM   #10
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Wow, 29 is going to get his ass destroyed by the NFL.


He went after an official?
there has to be a line that's not crossed. Being excited and passionate is not an excuse. One of those refs could get hurt really bad. Some 6'7" 330 lb lineman gets pissed off in a pile and takes a swing at a ref. He could end up with more than a black eye.
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:37 AM   #11
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there has to be a line that's not crossed. Being excited and passionate is not an excuse. One of those refs could get hurt really bad.
Even worse if they cross Ray Lewis...
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:39 AM   #12
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The non-call when Crabtree was held in the end zone was total bullshit. The announcers tried to justify the non-call by saying both guys were putting their hands on each other. To me it looked like Crabtree was held and was trying to fight off the guy holding him. That would have been the winning touchdown. I like the idea of letting guys play, but that doesn't mean you let the defense get away with murder. (Unless it's Ray Lewis, of course.) :-)

If the zebras are going to make that extremely questionable PI call that kept the Ravens drive alive that led to the winning field goal, they ought to at least be consistent.
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The non-call when Crabtree was held in the end zone was total bullshit. The announcers tried to justify the non-call by saying both guys were putting their hands on each other. To me it looked like Crabtree was held and was trying to fight off the guy holding him. That would have been the winning touchdown. I like the idea of letting guys play, but that doesn't mean you let the defense get away with murder. (Unless it's Ray Lewis, of course.) :-)

If the zebras are going to make that extremely questionable PI call that kept the Ravens drive alive that led to the winning field goal, they ought to at least be consistent.
The holding call at the end wasn't going to happen. No way the refs call that....especially because of the situation.
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:41 AM   #14
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The non-call when Crabtree was held in the end zone was total bullshit. The announcers tried to justify the non-call by saying both guys were putting their hands on each other. To me it looked like Crabtree was held and was trying to fight off the guy holding him. That would have been the winning touchdown. I like the idea of letting guys play, but that doesn't mean you let the defense get away with murder. (Unless it's Ray Lewis, of course.) :-)

If the zebras are going to make that extremely questionable PI call that kept the Ravens drive alive that led to the winning field goal, they ought to at least be consistent.
Was it really catchable though?
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Was it really catchable though?
I didn't think so. It landed pretty far OB. He could have caught it, but no way he gets two feet down in bounds.
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