Chiefs Are "Begging" To Get Out Of 1st Pick

[houstonwhodat]

According to this reporter at SB Nation, the Chiefs are "begging" to get out of the 1st pick in the draft.

April 15th:

"The Kansas City Chiefs earned the top spot in the NFL Draft with their 2-14 record last season, but it seems increasingly likely that they won't be the ones to actually make the first selection: Mike Freeman of CBS writes that the Chiefs are "begging" for the opportunity to move the pick."

"It's no surprise that the Kansas City Chiefs are open to trades for the No. 1 pick. They've already traded for a quarterback in Alex Smith, and the near-consensus best player available, Luke Joeckel, doesn't seem to be inspiring huge amounts of excitement in Kansas City, especially since Branden Albert has been a solid option for them at the position ever since they used their first-round pick on him in 2008. It is a little bit surprising how open they seem to be about it. Andy Reid said the team was open to it all the way back in February, and GM John Dorsey made similar statements a few weeks ago. But that's nothing compared to all the rumors of behind-the-scenes machinations trying to trade the pick. For what it's worth, Dan Kadar of Mocking the Draft said moving the pick was a "dream scenario" when he analyzed the Chiefs' choices in February."

"No team has traded a No. 1 pick since 2004 when the Chargers traded Eli Manning to the Giants, but that was a different scenario, as Manning had publicly stated he wouldn't play for the Chargers. Despite the ultimatum, they were still able to get a good haul for him - the fourth pick in that draft, Phillip Rivers, as well as first and third-round picks in 2005. The Rams were able to get an arm and a leg from the Redskins for the second pick in last year's draft, receiving last year's No. 6 pick and a second-rounder as well as first-round picks in this upcoming draft and in 2014. However, those trades were both for franchise-caliber quarterbacks, something this class has a dearth of."



http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/4/1...ing-trade-down

[L.A. Chieffan]

We're pretty much set. We can do whatever we want, thats what is great about our position

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan

We're pretty much set. We can do whatever we want, thats what is great about our position

actually we can't

if every other team knows we are desperate to trade out, they will force us to make a pick there. Why give up any value to a team that is in need of it, if they can wait til pick 2,3,4,5 etc to do it.

Essentially teams are going to force our hand, we will be forced to select a player and that is that.

[Chief_For_Life58]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

actually we can't

if every other team knows we are desperate to trade out, they will force us to make a pick there. Why give up any value to a team that is in need of it, if they can wait til pick 2,3,4,5 etc to do it.

Essentially teams are going to force our hand, we will be forced to select a player and that is that.

Geno "Chocolate Thunder Dick" Smith

[DTLB58]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

actually we can't

if every other team knows we are desperate to trade out, they will force us to make a pick there. Why give up any value to a team that is in need of it, if they can wait til pick 2,3,4,5 etc to do it.

Essentially teams are going to force our hand, we will be forced to select a player and that is that.

Or forced to to take a lot less to trade out.

You decide Dorsey/Reid make the pick or trade out for less than market value on a normal year?

[L.A. Chieffan]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

actually we can't

if every other team knows we are desperate to trade out, they will force us to make a pick there. Why give up any value to a team that is in need of it, if they can wait til pick 2,3,4,5 etc to do it.

Essentially teams are going to force our hand, we will be forced to select a player and that is that.

if we want to trade out we'll trade out. or we can take the guy we want. cant be in a better postion than that. plus we got qb locked up and our team is looking pretty good all of the sudden. looking pretty good

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan

if we want to trade out we'll trade out. or we can take the guy we want. cant be in a better postion than that. plus we got qb locked up and our team is looking pretty good all of the sudden. looking pretty good

The outcome of QB is "uncertain overall" at best. Nothing at this point is truly locked up. But then again, you supported the lamest QB in recent franchise history, so...
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[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan

We're pretty much set. We can do whatever we want, thats what is great about our position

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Trade that shit to the Jets.

[RealSNR]

It's no surprise that the Kansas City Chiefs are open to trades for the No. 1 pick. They've already traded for a quarterback in Alex Smith, and the near-consensus best player available, Luke Joeckel, doesn't seem to be inspiring huge amounts of excitement in Kansas City, especially since Branden Albert has been a solid option for them at the position ever since they used their first-round pick on him in 2008.

I mean, if Reid/Dorsey would have listened to Chiefs Planet, they wouldn't have this problem.

We warned them about this and they made the Smith trade anyway. And NOW they're like, "But the 1st overall pick is a terrible thing to waste on Luke Joeckel."

I sometimes think NFL GMs get so blinded by their "process" that the simple things in a draft/offseason can blindside them. It seems like the Chiefs said, "Who the **** cares, just get Alex. There's gotta be a 1st overall calibre player for us." And when there wasn't, they got caught with their pants down like a bunch of bitches.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by SNR

I mean, if Reid/Dorsey would have listened to Chiefs Planet, they wouldn't have this problem.

We warned them about this and they made the Smith trade anyway. And NOW they're like, "But the 1st overall pick is a terrible thing to waste on Luke Joeckel."

I sometimes think NFL GMs get so blinded by their "process" that the simple things in a draft/offseason can blindside them. It seems like the Chiefs said, "Who the **** cares, just get Alex. There's gotta be a 1st overall calibre player for us." And when there wasn't, they got caught with their pants down like a bunch of bitches.

So by your logic because there isn't a person worth a shit at #1 overall (and there isn't) they SHOULDN"T have traded for Alex Smith.

You are going to make a great GM for the Raiders one day.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

So by your logic because there isn't a person worth a shit at #1 overall (and there isn't) they SHOULDN"T have traded for Alex Smith.

You are going to make a great GM for the Raiders one day.

Yeah don't really understand that either.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

So by your logic because there isn't a person worth a shit at #1 overall (and there isn't) they SHOULDN"T have traded for Alex Smith.

You are going to make a great GM for the Raiders one day.

No. There's ONE player worth the #1 overall pick. A QB.

Need met value at that pick and Reid/Dorsey avoided it.

Now they have a pick that meets neither need nor value and want to get out of it.

HMMMM WHO COULD HAVE SAW THIS COMING

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by SNR

No. There's ONE player worth the #1 overall pick. A QB.

Need met value at that pick and Reid/Dorsey avoided it.

Now they have a pick that meets neither need nor value and want to get out of it.

HMMMM WHO COULD HAVE SAW THIS COMING

No QB worth the 1st in their opinion. That's been Abu dantly clear for a while.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

No QB worth the 1st in their opinion. That's been Abu dantly clear for a while.

It's not abundantly clear unless you can invent truth serum and force Andy or John to spill their guts.

Reports have ranged all over the ****ing place on what they think of this draft class as have their words publicly.

And we'll probably never REALLY know what they really think of Geno Smith. We can pretty fairly say that Andy Reid has some bizarre attraction to Alex Smith. It's the only thing that's been consistent this offseason from what he's told us. If that's true, you don't know if he thought Geno Smith was or was not worth the #1 overall pick.

To put it another way, if the Chiefs trade out of the pick or take a non-LT, does that mean Reid/Dorsey thought that neither Joeckel or Fisher were worth the #1 overall pick? Not necessarily.

That strain of bullshit is only being assumed by people when it comes to the QBs because that's apparently what you do this offseason. Shit on the QBs in the draft. It's fun!