Chiefs Chiefs to Work Out Geno Smith in KC - Page 18

**BossChief** · 03-27-2013, 11:37 AM

Scrolling on NFLN...says per Ian rappaport.

silver5liter · 03-28-2013, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It's a not a concern. This isn't 1977.

Jamaal Charles and Adrian Peterson returned from ACL tears this year, as did the Eric Berry and Tony Moeaki. How did it affect their NFL play?

RGIII is a QB. He needs better protection and better play calling. I can't ever remember an NFL QB having a career ending ACL tear. Furthermore, once an ACL is replaced, it's stronger than the original.

This isnt the first time he has shredded his ACL though

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-28-2013, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silver5liter

This isnt the first time he has shredded his ACL though

It doesn't matter.

An ACL is completely replaced with that of a cadaver. It's not repaired, it's replaced.

The biggest issue is rehab but as it's been proven in the past year, ACL's can be rehabbed quickly and efficiently.

keg in kc · 03-28-2013, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think that numbers are deceiving.

I watched plenty of RGIII in 2011 and when I watched Smith, I saw nothing remotely similar. RGIII was mobile, smart, sharp, accurate, charismatic and has a gun for an arm.

Smith, while accurate at times, didn't display the same running ability, the same leadership, the same charisma, and so on. That doesn't mean he'll fail in the NFL but it does explain why so many people out there don't project him as an NFL superstar.

Have you still only watched the one game?

(Serious question, not just asking in an effort to be a dick...)

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-28-2013, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Have you still only watched the one game?

(Serious question, not just asking in an effort to be a dick...)

I watched the entire K-State game and the entire Pinstripe Bowl on game day, the Combine and several games on YouTube back in February.

keg in kc · 03-28-2013, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I watched the entire K-State game and the entire Pinstripe Bowl on game day, the Combine and several games on YouTube back in February.

Good.

Back when you were hammering people about him but had only watched the K-State game, it was entertaining but not very convincing...

**BossChief** · 03-28-2013, 12:38 PM

RG3s problem is the Shannahans used the option way too much and that put their ferrari in the shop.

If I were to try to pinpoint Genos most frustrating weakness, it's that he doesn't run with the ball when he absolutely should.

There were probably 20 times, last year alone, that I yelled at the tv for Geno to take off and run with it because of the coverage and he seemingly refused to.

Geno wants to be a pocket quarterback, not a hybrid.

**BigMeatballDave** · 03-28-2013, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It doesn't matter.

An ACL is completely replaced with that of a cadaver. It's not repaired, it's replaced.

The biggest issue is rehab but as it's been proven in the past year, ACL's can be rehabbed quickly and efficiently.

They can also remove a section of the Patella tendon to use as a ACL replacement. Very interesting:

Direckshun · 03-28-2013, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Packers had Craig Nall as Favre's backup when they drafted Rodgers.

Chiefs can get out of Chase Daniels contract after a year.

I think they are really taking a long look at him. No smokescreen.

If you live in Springfield, you deserve for Flopnuts, luv and I, and anybody else who lives here, to buy you several rounds for all the stuff you've talked about here.

I'm guessing you live elsewhere, but you deserve a few beers, is all I'm saying.

**ptlyon** · 03-28-2013, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun

If you live in Springfield, you deserve for Flopnuts, luv and I, and anybody else who lives here, to buy you several rounds for all the stuff you've talked about here.

I'm guessing you live elsewhere, but you deserve a few beers, is all I'm saying.

I'd mail him a pie

Direckshun · 03-28-2013, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

RG3s problem is the Shannahans used the option way too much and that put their ferrari in the shop.

If I were to try to pinpoint Genos most frustrating weakness, it's that he doesn't run with the ball when he absolutely should.

There were probably 20 times, last year alone, that I yelled at the tv for Geno to take off and run with it because of the coverage and he seemingly refused to.

Geno wants to be a pocket quarterback, not a hybrid.

Absolutely.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-28-2013, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Good.

Back when you were hammering people about him but had only watched the K-State game, it was entertaining but not very convincing...

Here's what I see with Smith: A solid but not spectacular QB with the arm strength to make all of the throws, but at times he seems hesitant to make throws he should make. He's often inconsistent and didn't deal well with teams that could rush the passer.

Do I think he should go #1 overall? No. Do I think that he could develop into a solid NFL starter, given the "right" situation? Yes. But he's far from a finished project, unlike any of the guys taken in the past three drafts that have become solid starters (and that includes Dalton and Wilson).

I think the toughest thing about evaluating him from watching games and Youtube is that it's difficult to actually know the guy.

He's not charismatic. He does have the droopy eye thing going on. He doesn't appear to be a leader. He just doesn't look the role or act the role. I think that's a problem for a lot of NFL people.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-28-2013, 12:43 PM

Cadaver replacements are far less common than grafts from the hamstring or patellar tendon of the patient, especially athletes.

Sorter · 03-28-2013, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think that numbers are deceiving.

I watched plenty of RGIII in 2011 and when I watched Smith, I saw nothing remotely similar. RGIII was mobile, smart, sharp, accurate, charismatic and has a gun for an arm.

Smith, while accurate at times, didn't display the same running ability, the same leadership, the same charisma, and so on. That doesn't mean he'll fail in the NFL but it does explain why so many people out there don't project him as an NFL superstar.

Barkley and Smith are opposites in many ways but if they were combines into one singular QB, you'd be looking at a slam dunk #1 overall player. As it stands, there are legitimate questions about both players.

We don't have a machine for that yet?

Scientists, get your shit together and build us a QB worthy of Mordor.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-28-2013, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Cadaver replacements are far less common than grafts from the hamstring or patellar tendon of the patient, especially athletes.

That's interesting. I know quite a few guys that have had ACL surgery and all have had replacements, not grafts.

A cursory Google search shows that grafts are dangerous, especially for young athletes, with graft failure at 55% for under 25 athletes.

Very interesting indeed.

**ptlyon** · 03-28-2013, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ponderception

We don't have a machine for that yet?

Scientists, get your shit together and build us a QB worthy of Mordor.

I'm sure Dorsey can stare at them both, meld them together, and make a Barkley Smith.

03-27-2013, 11:37 AM
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $1894088	Chiefs to Work Out Geno Smith in KC Scrolling on NFLN...says per Ian rappaport.
Posts: 47,126

03-28-2013, 12:38 PM	#261
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $1894088	RG3s problem is the Shannahans used the option way too much and that put their ferrari in the shop. If I were to try to pinpoint Genos most frustrating weakness, it's that he doesn't run with the ball when he absolutely should. There were probably 20 times, last year alone, that I yelled at the tv for Geno to take off and run with it because of the coverage and he seemingly refused to. Geno wants to be a pocket quarterback, not a hybrid. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
Posts: 47,126

03-28-2013, 12:43 PM	#267
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8009572	Cadaver replacements are far less common than grafts from the hamstring or patellar tendon of the patient, especially athletes. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
Posts: 74,825