Star Wars Episode VII SPOILERS thread

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No holds barred spoiler discussion in this thread.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by listopencil

I think "CGI" just stuck in everyone's head. It sort of rolls off the tongue and has "computer" in it. When you say visual effects I'm thinking, "Yeah. It's visual. I can see it. But how did they do it?"

For whatever reason (and it's probably because I've used this term for 15 or more years), Visual Effects or VFX makes more sense to my brain.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by listopencil

I think "CGI" just stuck in everyone's head.

Oh, also, the term "CGI" or computer generated image, is a misnomer.

You can't just sit down and say "Okay computer, create "Mike Wazowski", then boom, there's Mike, one eyeball and all.

The computer doesn't create or "generate" the image. They're drawn usually using a sketch pad, into a computer program, then animated once the design has been set. Or in the case of Takadono, the imagery and background is created.

So Visual Effects is actually the appropriate term.

[Anyong Bluth]

Star Wars Rebels

Cinelinx is reporting a significant rumor that says that the show’s upcoming third season will in fact be its last.

Expounding on rumors reported on Slashfilm (by current io9 reporter Germain Lussier) in 2014, the site claims that Rebels will end after its third season, replaced by a new animated series that could be potentially set in the “sequel era” between Return of the Jedi and The Force Awakens. The third season would focus on linking the series closer and closer to the events of the films—specifically Rogue One—while wrapping up the character arcs of many of the characters on the show. Although the series would come to an end, the site claims, it would live on with direct-to-DVD releases to explore the characters' futures.

As ever with rumors like this, it’s best to take it with a pinch of salt—but considering that executive producer Dave Filoni recently told us that he’s already planned how the series ends, perhaps it’s not too unlikely?

[Anyong Bluth]

Obi-Wan Kenobi Anthology Film

Ewan McGregor would be open to being involved in the heavily rumored Obi-Wan movie series:

I’d very much like to do one too. I think the story between Episode III and Episode IV, I think there’s a story there. I think that’s the Obi-Wan Kenobi movie, if there is one. The one that bridges my Obi-Wan Kenobi and Alec’s Obi-Wan Kenobi because there’s a—I don’t know how long he’s in the desert there, but it’s got to be twenty or thirty years.
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[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth

Obi-Wan Kenobi Anthology Film

Ewan McGregor would be open to being involved in the heavily rumored Obi-Wan movie series:

I’d very much like to do one too. I think the story between Episode III and Episode IV, I think there’s a story there. I think that’s the Obi-Wan Kenobi movie, if there is one. The one that bridges my Obi-Wan Kenobi and Alec’s Obi-Wan Kenobi because there’s a—I don’t know how long he’s in the desert there, but it’s got to be twenty or thirty years.
[Collider]

Here's the thing: I don't know all of the specifics but Ewan McGregor had agreed to do an Obi Wan trilogy as early as late 2012 or shortly after the sale. I'd hinted at it several times throughout the years and was told an announcement was imminent in 2014, then it didn't happen.

It's kind of shocking to me that the Han Solo film is moving forward before an Obi Wan movie. Harrison Ford IS Han Solo, so regardless of the script and directors (who are fantastic), I think it's going to be a tough sell.

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Oh, also, the term "CGI" or computer generated image, is a misnomer.

You can't just sit down and say "Okay computer, create "Mike Wazowski", then boom, there's Mike, one eyeball and all.

The computer doesn't create or "generate" the image. They're drawn usually using a sketch pad, into a computer program, then animated once the design has been set. Or in the case of Takadono, the imagery and background is created.

So Visual Effects is actually the appropriate term.

Well, sure. When I see "CGI" I interpret that as "this is an image that someone used a computer to generate." I am pretty out of touch with this stuff though.

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Here's the thing: I don't know all of the specifics but Ewan McGregor had agreed to do an Obi Wan trilogy as early as late 2012 or shortly after the sale. I'd hinted at it several times throughout the years and was told an announcement was imminent in 2014, then it didn't happen.

It's kind of shocking to me that the Han Solo film is moving forward before an Obi Wan movie. Harrison Ford IS Han Solo, so regardless of the script and directors (who are fantastic), I think it's going to be a tough sell.

They would pretty much have to find someone to play a young Harrison Ford. Someone was saying earlier in this thread that Obi Wan was believable because the actor was playing a young Alec Guiness. I buy that, it makes sense.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by listopencil

They would pretty much have to find someone to play a young Harrison Ford. Someone was saying earlier in this thread that Obi Wan was believable because the actor was playing a young Alec Guiness. I buy that, it makes sense.

Yeah but Alec Guiness was monk-like in his performance, so the only thing that Ewan had to cop was the accent.

Han Solo is the cockiest, smugest, most successful swindler, pirate and star pilot in the galaxy.

That's a tough casting call.

[Jamie]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Did you see the VFX reel from TFA that I linked earlier in the thread? If so, you'd see that very little was "real".

And the space shots, as well as the attack on Takodana, were all VFX.

Even the very first shot of Kylo Ren coming down the ramp of his shuttle was all green screen.

I didn't think I needed to make the distinction between scenes with actors and space scenes, because obviously all the spaceship scenes are fully CG. Model work is (sadly) long dead.

And it's not like I was trying to say this movie is a triumph of practical effects, the first line of my post was "there was a lot of CG". But if you pay attention to that VFX reel you'll see that most of the foreground elements, i.e. the stuff the actors interact with, is practical. That may seem trivial, but it grounds the scenes enough that you don't feel like you're watching actors floating over cartoons like in Episode III.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Jamie

I didn't think I needed to make the distinction between scenes with actors and space scenes, because obviously all the spaceship scenes are fully CG. Model work is (sadly) long dead.

And it's not like I was trying to say this movie is a triumph of practical effects, the first line of my post was "there was a lot of CG". But if you pay attention to that VFX reel you'll see that most of the foreground elements, i.e. the stuff the actors interact with, is practical. That may seem trivial, but it grounds the scenes enough that you don't feel like you're watching actors floating over cartoons like in Episode III.

The movie is overtly VFX. Nearly every scene was film at Pinewood in front of green screens. As a matter of fact, there are very few scenes, if any, that don't include VFX.

This fallacy that TFA is better because there are fewer VFX is complete nonsense.

[Beef Supreme]

This discussion probably took place 100 pages ago, but near the end of the movie, when everyone is returning to the rebel base, Chewie is getting off the ship and walking toward Leia. Han has just died, his best friend in the universe and his wife are walking right at each other, and don't even acknowledge each other.

Instead, Leia stares right past him and has a moment with a girl she has never met before and they hug it out. What kind of shit is this?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet

This discussion probably took place 100 pages ago, but near the end of the movie, when everyone is returning to the rebel base, Chewie is getting off the ship and walking toward Leia. Han has just died, his best friend in the universe and his wife are walking right at each other, and don't even acknowledge each other.

Instead, Leia stares right past him and has a moment with a girl she has never met before and they hug it out. What kind of shit is this?

Abrams has already admitted that the scene was a mistake.

Leia and Chewie should have embraced, not Leia and Rey.

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet

This discussion probably took place 100 pages ago, but near the end of the movie, when everyone is returning to the rebel base, Chewie is getting off the ship and walking toward Leia. Han has just died, his best friend in the universe and his wife are walking right at each other, and don't even acknowledge each other.

Instead, Leia stares right past him and has a moment with a girl she has never met before and they hug it out. What kind of shit is this?

Unless Rey is secretly Darth Emo's twin brother, Han and Leia's other child. Bum, bum, buuuum....dramatic music.

[keg in kc]

http://www.slashfilm.com/leia-huggin...force-awakens/