Science Unique Military Weapons - Page 9

**Easy 6** · 08-22-2016, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Ground effect is magical, y'all

Translation, please

**mikeyis4dcats.** · 08-23-2016, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

Translation, please

https://www.stratfor.com/weekly/grou...ned-technology

Demonpenz · 08-23-2016, 02:05 AM

Russians drink alot. What about that helicopter that is like a jumbo jet with rotors they made.

MIAdragon · 08-23-2016, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz

Russians drink alot. What about that helicopter that is like a jumbo jet with rotors they made.

Mi V-12.

The K7 was out there

Amnorix · 08-23-2016, 10:21 AM

British Major General Percy Hobart served during WWII and was tasked by Lord Alanbrooke (the British version of George Marshall) and Winston Churchill with designing tank modifications that could overcome various obstacles/ impediments/ problems in the D-Day landings. The results were interesting, bizarre and sometimes effective. Indeed, some were then used by teh US, and others, not used by the US, resulted in criticism, when they arguably could have saved soldier's lives.

The whole group of whacky designs became collectively known as "Hobart's Funnies".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobart%27s_Funnies

The next few posts will highlight some of these "funnies"

Amnorix · 08-23-2016, 10:22 AM

A "Churchill ark", this was a vehicle designed to provide a bridge to, well, other tanks.

Here's one in use:

Double ark!

Amnorix · 08-23-2016, 10:29 AM

A post-war Churchill "toad", a mine-clearing tank, which basically uses a flail at the front.

Similarly, a Sherman "crab" tank

Amnorix · 08-23-2016, 10:38 AM

And most controversially, successfully and famously, a DD Tank. This was a Sherman tank that the British modified to work in the water. It had a "skirt" which could be raised sort of like a canvas shower curtain to surround the tank.

Hundreds were dropped at D-day, miles from the beach. The problem was that with the rough waters, quite a few "drowned", taking their crew with them of course.

What you won't read in too many places is that they may have been the greatest generation, but humans are humans. When the fire from the beaches became intense, many of the sailors piloting the LCTs (Landing Craft - Tank) became primarily focused on getting their troops off their boat and into the water, so they could get the **** out of there. Some got their tanks off early -- too early -- which resulted in sunken tanks. I've read anecdotes that some soldiers, after seeing this, were not too keen on early drop offs, and that where the sailors were insisting that they get in the water, guns were pointed at sailors to help convince them to "get a little ****ing closer to the goddamn beach".

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**mikeyis4dcats.** · 08-23-2016, 10:53 AM

for all the technological advances in aviation, my favorite airframe is STILL the A-10.

Discuss Thrower · 08-23-2016, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

for all the technological advances in aviation, my favorite airframe is STILL the A-10.

Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrtttt

MIAdragon · 08-23-2016, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrtttt

Depleted uranium, yummy.

**mikeyis4dcats.** · 08-23-2016, 10:54 AM

the Spectre is badass too

**Bowser** · 08-23-2016, 12:22 PM

GloucesterChief · 08-23-2016, 08:04 PM

Armor of the Polish Winged Hussars. As the rest of Europe was going for less armor on cavalry due to the emergence of guns in armies, the Poles continued to field cavalry clad in heavy armor. The wings were actually worn into battle and there are many theories as to why.

First is that the Tartars and Cossacks of the Ukraine and Crimea used lassos in battle to lasso and pull down cavalry and the wings prevented that. Another is that the ostrich feathers in the wings made a whistling sound at full gallop which unnerved horses not used to it. A final theory is that is was simply for flamboyance and to strike fear into the opposing army as the Winged Hussars were the premier cavalry in their age.

**loochy** · 08-24-2016, 12:16 PM

The A-12:

It was supposed to be an all-weather, carrier-based stealth bomber.

There are quite a few old timers around here that were present when the news hit that the program was cancelled. They say it was like a death march as everyone marched out to their cars after being laid off en masse.

On a positive note, there was a full scale mockup at the north end of our property for quite a while. They finally moved it a couple of years ago - I'm not sure what they did with it. You used to be able to see it on google maps.

08-23-2016, 02:05 AM	#3
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08-23-2016, 10:21 AM	#5
Amnorix In BB I trust Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boston, Mass. Casino cash: $10029808	British Major General Percy Hobart served during WWII and was tasked by Lord Alanbrooke (the British version of George Marshall) and Winston Churchill with designing tank modifications that could overcome various obstacles/ impediments/ problems in the D-Day landings. The results were interesting, bizarre and sometimes effective. Indeed, some were then used by teh US, and others, not used by the US, resulted in criticism, when they arguably could have saved soldier's lives. The whole group of whacky designs became collectively known as "Hobart's Funnies". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobart%27s_Funnies The next few posts will highlight some of these "funnies" __________________ "I love signature blocks on the Internet. I get to put whatever the hell I want in quotes, pick a pretend author, and bang, it's like he really said it." George Washington
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08-23-2016, 10:22 AM	#6
Amnorix In BB I trust Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boston, Mass. Casino cash: $10029808	A "Churchill ark", this was a vehicle designed to provide a bridge to, well, other tanks. Here's one in use: Double ark! __________________ "I love signature blocks on the Internet. I get to put whatever the hell I want in quotes, pick a pretend author, and bang, it's like he really said it." George Washington
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08-23-2016, 10:29 AM	#7
Amnorix In BB I trust Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boston, Mass. Casino cash: $10029808	A post-war Churchill "toad", a mine-clearing tank, which basically uses a flail at the front. Similarly, a Sherman "crab" tank __________________ "I love signature blocks on the Internet. I get to put whatever the hell I want in quotes, pick a pretend author, and bang, it's like he really said it." George Washington
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08-23-2016, 10:38 AM	#8
Amnorix In BB I trust Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boston, Mass. Casino cash: $10029808	And most controversially, successfully and famously, a DD Tank. This was a Sherman tank that the British modified to work in the water. It had a "skirt" which could be raised sort of like a canvas shower curtain to surround the tank. Hundreds were dropped at D-day, miles from the beach. The problem was that with the rough waters, quite a few "drowned", taking their crew with them of course. What you won't read in too many places is that they may have been the greatest generation, but humans are humans. When the fire from the beaches became intense, many of the sailors piloting the LCTs (Landing Craft - Tank) became primarily focused on getting their troops off their boat and into the water, so they could get the ** out of there. Some got their tanks off early -- too early -- which resulted in sunken tanks. I've read anecdotes that some soldiers, after seeing this, were not too keen on early drop offs, and that where the sailors were insisting that they get in the water, guns were pointed at sailors to help convince them to "get a little **ing closer to the goddamn beach". Screen lowered: Screen raised: __________________ "I love signature blocks on the Internet. I get to put whatever the hell I want in quotes, pick a pretend author, and bang, it's like he really said it." George Washington
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08-23-2016, 10:53 AM	#9
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08-23-2016, 10:54 AM	#12
mikeyis4dcats. Scarlett Johansson's boytoy Join Date: Nov 2006 Casino cash: $9555998	the Spectre is badass too __________________
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08-23-2016, 12:22 PM	#13
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08-23-2016, 08:04 PM	#14
GloucesterChief MVP Join Date: Jan 2013 Casino cash: $1586454	Armor of the Polish Winged Hussars. As the rest of Europe was going for less armor on cavalry due to the emergence of guns in armies, the Poles continued to field cavalry clad in heavy armor. The wings were actually worn into battle and there are many theories as to why. First is that the Tartars and Cossacks of the Ukraine and Crimea used lassos in battle to lasso and pull down cavalry and the wings prevented that. Another is that the ostrich feathers in the wings made a whistling sound at full gallop which unnerved horses not used to it. A final theory is that is was simply for flamboyance and to strike fear into the opposing army as the Winged Hussars were the premier cavalry in their age.
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08-24-2016, 12:16 PM	#15
loochy Hey Loochy, I'm hooome! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: PooPooKaKaPeePeeShire Casino cash: $1950752	The A-12: It was supposed to be an all-weather, carrier-based stealth bomber. There are quite a few old timers around here that were present when the news hit that the program was cancelled. They say it was like a death march as everyone marched out to their cars after being laid off en masse. On a positive note, there was a full scale mockup at the north end of our property for quite a while. They finally moved it a couple of years ago - I'm not sure what they did with it. You used to be able to see it on google maps. __________________ Hey Loochy, I'm hoooome!
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