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Old 04-14-2017, 07:49 PM  
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****Official 2017 NBA Playoffs Thread****
The real season begins.

Round 1:

EAST:

#8 Bulls @ #1 Celtics
#7 Pacers @ #2 Cavs
#6 Bucks @ #3 Raptors
#5 Hawks @ #4 Wizards

WEST:
#8 Blazers @ #1 Warriors
#7 Grizzlies @ #2 Spurs
#6 Thunder @ #3 Rockets
#5 Jazz @ #4 Clippers
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Old 06-03-2017, 05:41 PM   #1426
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Of course it's true. The fact that the Cavs barely try in the regular season should be obvious to everyone by now. Even Nate Silver a few days ago acknowledged this effect as a primary reason why his ELO Rating system underrated Cleveland:



https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...arriors-again/
And yet this was the only year that they've lost down the stretch as much as they did. Was this the first year they decided to not try?
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Old 06-03-2017, 05:46 PM   #1427
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A worse/softer version of Kevin Love doesn't quite put that Heat team on the same level as the Warriors, I'm afraid.
Agreed, which is why I said "in the same ballpark."

Durant is being unfairly pilloried in this regard. LeBron is the OG of jumping ship to make life easier on himself. And he did it twice.
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And yet this was the only year that they've lost down the stretch as much as they did. Was this the first year they decided to not try?
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Hardly. But judging by their excellent playoff performance, it looks like it was the first year they coasted to that extent down the stretch.
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Old 06-03-2017, 05:48 PM   #1429
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Agreed, which is why I said "in the same ballpark."

Durant is being unfairly pilloried in this regard. LeBron is the OG of jumping ship to make life easier on himself. And he did it twice.
But I don't think Durant did anything wrong. He made the decision that he wouldn't be able to beat the Warriors in OKC and joined them instead. If he didn't, he'd have never won anything at all and that would be far worse for him/his legacy.
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Old 06-03-2017, 05:55 PM   #1430
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But I don't think Durant did anything wrong. He made the decision that he wouldn't be able to beat the Warriors in OKC and joined them instead. If he didn't, he'd have never won anything at all and that would be far worse for him/his legacy.
In your opinion. Personally I hold Barkley and The Mailman in higher regards than Durant.
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But I don't think Durant did anything wrong. He made the decision that he wouldn't be able to beat the Warriors in OKC and joined them instead. If he didn't, he'd have never won anything at all and that would be far worse for him/his legacy.
Yeah, but you called it "pulling a Durant."

No. That's "pulling a LeBron."

And he looks far worse because he literally abandoned teammates who helped him win a championship.

He's a frontrunner. That's why his personality takes a sharp 180 when things don't go his way. And he's setting a poor example for younger players, like Durant, who evidently decided "pulling a LeBron" is the way to conduct your career now.

Who's next? Anthony Davis? Blake Griffin? Sad.
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Old 06-03-2017, 06:09 PM   #1433
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Anthony Davis has every right to go somewhere and it not be pulling a Lebron

the franchise he plays for is terrible, the team around him is garbage
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Anthony Davis has every right to go somewhere and it not be pulling a Lebron

the franchise he plays for is terrible, the team around him is garbage
The Cavs were the same when they picked LeBron. Even WITH him they didn't make the playoffs the first two years of his career.
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The Cavs were the same when they picked LeBron. Even WITH him they didn't make the playoffs the first two years of his career.
I have no idea how that relates to Anthony Davis playing for a terrible Pelicans franchise.

This is year SIX of him there, not year 2. So what he's suppose to stay there for 10 years in hopes the franchise gets him a real teammate?

And no, Demarcus Cousins sucks he's not a real teammate.
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They aren't winning the series no matter what he does. It goes 5 games max as I said at the beginning of the playoffs. The Warriors would not be able to be stopped by any team in history and certainly not one that's lacking defensively in so many areas like the Cavs.


But let's assume that he loses this series and continues to lose for the rest of his career as long as this version of the Warriors exists. Wouldn't going to the Warriors after this season be the better option in that equation?
What a ridiculous and stupid statement.

They sure as hell aren't going to win if he gets outplayed by Kevin Durant
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What a ridiculous and stupid statement.
I wish that was true, but the Cavs simply are not capable of stopping a Warriors with both Curry and Durant. Nobody is. LeBron could play just as well as he did last year and it wouldn't be enough.
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I wish that was true, but the Cavs simply are not capable of stopping a Warriors with both Curry and Durant. Nobody is. LeBron could play just as well as he did last year and it wouldn't be enough.

Lebron can't seem to stop Durant.

And you say he's better than Jordan.

Heh
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Yeah, but you called it "pulling a Durant."
Yes because if he went to the proven champion Warriors after just losing to them, that would be doing exactly what Durant did.
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I wish that was true, but the Cavs simply are not capable of stopping a Warriors with both Curry and Durant.
Wrong.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...612250CLE.html
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