Chiefs Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel - Page 94

**DaFace** · 04:32 PM

Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.
By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.

O.city · 10-31-2018, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

So...today's the day, right boys?

Yep, hold your breath.

Buckweath · 10-31-2018, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

We had needs EVERYWHERE on defense. Literally every single ****ing level man. We couldn’t stop the run, the pass, our LB’s were old, our safeties were old, our corners sucked.

It’s like you guys think Dorsey’s years of bad personnel decisions could be fixed in 1 offseason with no first rd pick.

And no. Tre Boston and Kenny Vacarro suck. They haven’t done shit for their teams. Jordan Lucas has been better.

If you want to point the finger, point it at Dorsey because Veach’s draft picks have actually flashed some potential so far.

Dorsey is a major reason why this team is top of the league.

I cannot stand that clueless criticism of him.

O.city · 10-31-2018, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Buckweath

Dorsey is a major reason why this team is top of the league.

I cannot stand that clueless criticism of him.

Andy Reid.

Dorsey is the reason the defense had to be completely re made.

Red Dawg · 10-31-2018, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Buckweath

Dorsey is a major reason why this team is top of the league.

I cannot stand that clueless criticism of him.

That's a load of shit. He's the reason the defense sucks balls and the contracts are shit.

In58men · 10-31-2018, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

So...day to day, right boys?

Sounds about right fam

ToxSocks · 10-31-2018, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Andy Reid.

Dorsey is the reason the defense had to be completely re made.

Age is the reason this defense had to be completely re-made. It was going to happen no matter who the GM was.

KCUnited · 10-31-2018, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

So...today's the day, right boys?

The heel is done!

O.city · 10-31-2018, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Age is the reason this defense had to be completely re-made. It was going to happen no matter who the GM was.

They had years to see that coming though and drafted for it. It didn't work out.

**Baby Lee** · 10-31-2018, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited

The heel is done!

Guys on twitter saw him shopping at Dr. Scholls!!!

Buckweath · 10-31-2018, 11:05 AM

The Chiefs had a top, or at least, good defense for years. I'm not sure why people don't get that practically all good defenses slow down for some time at some point.

The great recent defenses like the Steelers' and the Ravens' slowed down after a few years. It is the same for the Broncos. The Seahawks.

And this defense right now is #21 in points per game.

I would maybe be complaining about the defense if the offense was bad (too) but really overall this team is great and hopefully the defense can return to be a good defense within a year or two.

And the Chiefs were arguably the top team when it came to drafting during Dorsey's tenure but some fans still find a way to criticize him for his defensive draft picks. How is it supposed to make sense?

Buckweath · 10-31-2018, 11:23 AM

Wouldn't have guessed Andy Reid would give John Dorsey FULL credit for KC's roster. "John picked 'em. That's why I'm telling yo.u You guys are in good hands."
— Steve Doerschuk (@sdoerschukREP) October 31, 2018

There you go. Dorsey is a boss! You just watch how things get turned around in Cleveland.

Chris Meck · 10-31-2018, 11:29 AM

why's it got to be all or nothing? Genius or Moron?
Dorsey hit on some great mid to late picks. Had some good, solid drafts. Had some head scratchers, and some that didn't work out.

LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.

And some cap issues. Shrug. Overall, he rescued us from the Pioli shitheap and he'll always have a place in my heart for that. and I'm kind of rooting for Cleveland (not this week) in general because that is the longest suffering fanbase in sports these days. It's my hope that Mahomes vs. Mayfield becomes the Brady vs. Manning of the 2020's.

OKchiefs · 10-31-2018, 11:36 AM

Burry still out, as expected. **** him in his fat ****ing ass.

ToxSocks · 10-31-2018, 11:43 AM

Welp, i'll see you guys here next week. Same bat time, same bat channel.

Titty Meat · 10-31-2018, 11:49 AM

Is he still day to day?

09-29-2018, 01:06 PM
DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $1646899	Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me. https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday. By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.” The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.” More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo: Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.” This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg. Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week. Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos. ---- Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann: A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition. The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well. The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself. Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function. These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is. Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side. Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some. For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period. If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level. Last edited by DaFace; 09-29-2018 at 04:32 PM..
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