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Old 01-17-2017, 12:35 PM  
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MELLINGER: Should The Chiefs Move On From Smith?

Yep, another Alex Smith thread - but a solid and fair read from Sam Mellinger.

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The only way forward is through brutal honesty and realistic self-evaluation. No sport moves as quickly, or with such little empathy, as the NFL.

Only fools assume what happened in the past will continue to happen in the future, unless that assumption is “the Patriots will win every year from now until armageddon because Bill Belichick is an alien.”

And so it is that this particular group of Chiefs players and executives attempt to solve a puzzle that no group of Chiefs players and executives has solved since 1970, which is so long ago CBS erased the tape to save money:

Get to the Super Bowl.

And it’s hard to believe that will happen without addressing the quarterback situation.

This is not a call for the Chiefs to walk away from Alex Smith, even though this is the first offseason since his arrival in which they could do it without a fatal salary cap hit. This is a call for them to look, to try, to make sure they don’t have access to a better option — whether that’s Tony Romo in a trade, Deshaun Watson in the draft (which would almost certainly require a trade up), or anything else.
Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...#storylink=cpy
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Old 07-23-2017, 07:37 PM   #1396
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Oops, 2018 draft. Point remains the same.
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Old 07-23-2017, 07:38 PM   #1397
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Oops, 2018 draft. Point remains the same.
Yeah, it does, because you're ****ing stupid
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Old 07-23-2017, 07:41 PM   #1398
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I didn't realize we had people on CP that can predict the future. No QB in the next draft has the arm talent nor the play making ability of Mahomes. The guy had an all time terrible defense and still kicked ass. Texas Tech lost like 4 games when they scored over 35 points.

Only the USC kid is a true bad ass and he will stay in school if the wring team has the number one pick. He basically said so when he told teams not to tank for him.
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Old 07-23-2017, 07:42 PM   #1399
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Yeah, it does, because you're ****ing stupid
Meh, don't care. Fact is KC traded up for a QB who can't even start because he comes from a college chuck and duck system. The 2018 draft will have better QBs and it will be deeper too.
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Old 07-23-2017, 07:43 PM   #1400
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I didn't realize we had people on CP that can predict the future. No QB in the next draft has the arm talent nor the play making ability of Mahomes.
Stop taking out of your ass
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Old 07-23-2017, 07:43 PM   #1401
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Meh, don't care. Fact is KC traded up for a QB who can't even start because he comes from a college chuck and duck system. The 2018 draft will have better QBs and it will be deeper too.
Congrats. You just described Paxton Lynch and admitted that he has no shot
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Old 07-23-2017, 07:45 PM   #1402
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Meh, don't care. Fact is KC traded up for a QB who can't even start because he comes from a college chuck and duck system. The 2018 draft will have better QBs and it will be deeper too.
The Chiefs drafted a QB of the FUTURE.

Not 2017 and most likely, not 2018.

FUTURE.

You're smoking crack if you think the Chiefs could have jumped into the Top Three without giving up a massive amount of future draft choices.

The first time you make a sensible post on CP will be the first time.
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Old 07-23-2017, 07:47 PM   #1403
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I like how you guys try to downplay beating a playoff team. The Bills haven't made the playoffs in 17-years... Before Reid/Alex Smith got here it was 21-years since we won a playoff gm. That's a long time and we've had some good teams here. Think about that for a second.

This is the NFL, the best players/coaches in the world. Winning any NFL playoff game is impressive and an accomplishment. Hell winning a game in the NFL is an accomplishment. Every team and game is tough and a different challenge.

Most of you guys probably couldn't even make your HS football team and you want to compare beating a playoff team to buying a hooker because Alex Smith isn't an elite QB so stupid...

Give credit where credit is due. It was a great win for this organization to finally get that monkey off our back.
You, my friend, are a useless ****ing tool.
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Old 07-23-2017, 07:48 PM   #1404
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Congrats. You just described Paxton Lynch and admitted that he has no shot
The Broncos gave up a third round pick for Lynch and he's probably gonna start this year. Plus the Broncos drafted a better NFL QB prospect in Kelly (than Mahomes) in the 7th round.
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Old 07-23-2017, 07:49 PM   #1405
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The Broncos gave up a third round pick for Lynch and he's probably gonna start this year. Plus the Broncos drafted a better NFL QB prospect in Kelly, in the 7th round.
Well we drafted a better prospect in the 2nd round. And my dad is better than your dad.
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Meh, don't care. Fact is KC traded up for a QB who can't even start because he comes from a college chuck and duck system. The 2018 draft will have better QBs and it will be deeper too.
If they had wanted a QB who was more pro-ready, they'd have picked one of the ones that was available.

Obviously, they feel fine with Alex Smith in the short term and did not see picking a project QB high in the first round as an issue.

I don't think anyone should be concerned with Mahomes as a quarterback on draft day, my main concern is whether Andy Reid can develop him, being that there isn't much evidence of his ability to do that other than McNabb, who was from the pro-ready category, and that was closing in on 20 years ago.

The right coaching, offense, and personnel situation could certainly see Mahomes develop into a great QB. Time will prove if we have that.
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Old 07-23-2017, 07:50 PM   #1407
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The Chiefs drafted a QB of the FUTURE.

Not 2017 and most likely, not 2018.

FUTURE.

You're smoking crack if you think the Chiefs could have jumped into the Top Three without giving up a massive amount of future draft choices.

The first time you make a sensible post on CP will be the first time.
What team trades up that far in the first round, for a QB project?
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What team trades up that far in the first round, for a QB project?
The one that traded two second round picks for Alex Smith, and thinks they can contend for a Super Bowl with him?
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Old 07-23-2017, 07:54 PM   #1409
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The one that traded two second round picks for Alex Smith, and thinks they can contend for a Super Bowl with him?
Touché.
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What team trades up that far in the first round, for a QB project?
One that has the time to work on the development of a QB that they believe has elite upside.
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