****The Official 2019 STL Cardinals Thread****

[BigRedChief]

Cardinals announce 25-man Opening Day roster for the 2019 season.

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The Cardinals today announced their 25-man Opening Day roster that includes four first-time Cardinals and 13 players that were developed within their organization.

PITCHERS (12): 60 – John Brebbia-RHP, 22 – Jack Flaherty-RHP, 53 – John Gant- RHP, 49 – Jordan Hicks-RHP, 43 – Dakota Hudson- RHP, 55 – Dominic Leone-RHP, 59 – Mike Mayers- RHP, 21 – Andrew Miller-LHP, 39 – Miles Mikolas-RHP, 29 – Alex Reyes, RHP, 52 – Michael Wacha-RHP, 50 – Adam Wainwright- RHP;

CATCHERS (2): 4 -Yadier Molina, 32 – Matt Wieters;

INFIELDERS (6): 13 - Matt Carpenter, 12 – Paul DeJong, 46 – Paul Goldschmidt, 34 – Yario Muñoz, 33 – Drew Robinson, 16 – Kolten Wong;

OUTFIELDERS (5): 46 – Harrison Bader, 25 - Dexter Fowler, 38 – José Martínez, 41 – Tyler O'Neill, 23 – Marcell Ozuna;

DISABLED LIST (5): 27 - Brett Cecil (10-day, left hand Carpal Tunnel syndrome), 44 – Luke Gregerson (10-day, right shoulder impingement), 18 – Carlos Martínez (right shoulder cuff strain), 3 - Jedd Gyorko (10-day, right calf strain), 67 - Justin Williams (10-day, right hand 2nd metacarpal fracture).

2019 Opening Day Line up

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Starting lineup
Matt Carpenter 3B
Paul Goldschmidt 1B
Paul DeJong SS
Ozuna LF
Yadier Molina C
Dexter Fowler RF
Kolten Wong 2B
Harrison Bader CF

Won the Central Division. Won the NLDS.

NLDS Playoff roster

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Pitchers (12): Miles Mikolas, Jack Flaherty, Adam Wainwright, Dakota Hudson, Genesis Cabrera, Tyler Webb, Andrew Miller, John Brebbia, Daniel Ponce de Leon, Ryan Helsley, Giovanny Gallegos, Carlos Martinez.

Catchers (2): Yadier Molina, Matt Wieters.

Infielders (6): Paul Goldschmidt, Kolten Wong, Paul DeJong, Matt Carpenter, Tommy Edman, Yairo Munoz.

Outfielders (5): Marcell Ozuna, Harrison Bader, Dexter Fowler, Jose Martinez, Randy Arozarena.

NLDS Playoff Game 1 starting lineup

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1. Dexter Fowler, CF

2. Tommy Edman, 3B

3. Paul Goldschmidt, 1B

4. Marcell Ozuna, LF

5. Yadier Molina, C

6. Paul DeJong, SS

7. Kolten Wong, 2B

8. Harrison Bader, CF

9. Miles Mikolas, P

NLCS Game One Starting lineup

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1. Dexter Fowler, CF

2. Kolten Wong, 2B

3. Paul Goldschmidt, 1B

4. Marcell Ozuna, LF

5. Yadier Molina, C

6. Matt Carpenter 3B

7.Tommy Edmond RF

8. Paul DeJong, SS

9. Miles Mikolas P

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I don’t know who that pitcher is, but that ain’t one of those pussy hold me back baseball “fights”. I’d like dudes with that passion on my team.

Amir Garrett just took on the ENTIRE Pittsburgh Pirates team. pic.twitter.com/PKlZe6ljb8

— Justin Russo (@FlyByKnite) July 31, 2019

Amir Garrett is kinda ****ing nuts, even on a good day.

There's a lot of Julian Taverez in that boy.

Here's a pretty funny breakdown of the entire sequence:

[Marco Polo]

I'll be more than upset if we trade Gorman or Carlson for someone other than a true star.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Not sure how the insiders view Ray compared to Bauer but outside of Bauers last season where he looked like he turned into a stud ace they arent too far apart in terms of careers. Bauers a little bit ahead but then you've got the whole but hes a lefty shit in favor of Ray. I would be surprised if Gorman wouldn't be in a deal for Ray.

It's pretty crazy to me the gap between what it cost to get Stroman compared to Bauer.

Strikeout rates turn heads these days and Bauer strikes guys out.

I don't understand why the Reds gave up that much to get him apart from the year of control next season. Bauer's become quite the innings eater if he can manage to not have his leg broken by a liner. But I wonder if part of his struggles this year aren't related to no longer having Klubot and Carrasco to do the top of the rotation stuff. I wonder if he's truly capable of being a staff ace like the Reds will ask of him.

And if he's getting that frustrated about a rocky inning in KC, what's he gonna do when a routine fly ball gets out of the launching pad at GAB?

Trammel is a ton to give up for a high variance pitcher like Bauer. I understand that he's a guy you can give the ball in game 1 and think he can steal you a W or two in a short series, so his value is higher than a guy like Stroman who is pretty middle of the road. But over 32 starts the difference between the two of them isn't that huge given Bauer's inconsistency.

And the Reds aren't the Astros, Dodgers or Yankees. A Game 1 start is by no means a given.

An odd move for them to be sure.

And no, I wouldn't give up Gorman for Bauer but I'd still consider it for Thor.

[O.city]

I don't think I'd move Gorman or Carlson. The Cards need one of (both?) of those guys to develop into legit dudes to compete in the future.

Don't squander anything on this lucky shit team.

[Miles]

45 minutes left with no activity. Don’t want to see the usual give up stuff of real value for crap but seems like some tinkering could be done for a LH bench bat or flier on change of scenery type of SP.

[Miles]

There goes Gyorko to the dodgers at presumably rock bottom value.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Miles

There goes Gyorko to the dodgers at presumably rock bottom value.

Good ol' "Sell Low Moe" strikes again.

****ing guy has no concept of trading high. Dude hits 50 HRs and plays plus defense over 900 PAs and still has 3 years of team control left at the time, the Cardinals decide they're not going to start him at 3b but also not do...anything with him.

And over the next 2 seasons his value decays to a mere salary dump.

Because John Mozeliak is a ****ing trash GM. Corey Dickerson is the LH bat we've needed off the bench for 2 years and he just got traded (again) for essentially nothing; what appears to be bonus money or cash considerations.

Moe is just awful. This team will go nowhere as long as he is running it.

[Miles]

Agree with all of that. Also this trade potentially just helps the best NL team for cash savings.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by O.city

I don't think I'd move Gorman or Carlson. The Cards need one of (both?) of those guys to develop into legit dudes to compete in the future.

Don't squander anything on this lucky shit team.

Does Not appear thats a concern, they opted to get worse instead.

[Marco Polo]

A ton of pitching traded and we do... nothing. Mo needs to be fired if this team doesn't make the playoffs, period. I have no faith in this FO.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Marco Polo

A ton of pitching traded and we do... nothing. Mo needs to be fired if this team doesn't make the playoffs, period. I have no faith in this FO.

Moe needs to be fired if they do make the playoffs.

I don't know what else we need to see to recognize that he's been bypassed by half the league or more. He's simply not a good general manager and whatever the advantages he had on the league 5 years ago, he's clearly been caught and passed since.

He's past his sell-by date. Kinda like every player who's value he's run into the ground and dumped for pennies on the dollar.

Whatever happened to his willingness to 'walk the plank' for Mike Matheny? Sure doesn't seem to have eaten any shit over that disaster.

[O.city]

Greinke to the Stros.


Nice

[jd1020]

Astros and Yankees were in on the same pitchers that didn't end up getting traded but the Astros turn around and get Greinke and Sanchez.

Yankees...

[DJ's left nut]

Cubs got Castellanos from the Tigers. Quality hitter they probably got on the cheap.

But hey, the Cardinals dumped some salary and have Michael Wacha scheduled to make a start so we have that going for us...

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Cubs got Castellanos from the Tigers. Quality hitter they probably got on the cheap.

But hey, the Cardinals dumped some salary and have Michael Wacha scheduled to make a start so we have that going for us...

Alex Lange and Paul Richan going to Detroit.

Alex Lange was a former 1st round pick but he hasn't shown shit in the minors and has actually lost velocity on his fastball and was plummeting in ranks on one of the worst minor league systems in the game so I doubt he ever even sniffs a call up. Paul Richan 22 years old in A+ and doesnt have a single plus pitch with a low 90's fastball.