Chiefs Does this team have an internal QB controversy? - Page 9

Coogs · 11-20-2017, 06:39 AM

This team has went south since the Steelers came to town. The tape showed Smith missing 4 to 5 TD opportunities. There have been other missed chances since. You know the players see the tape.

Meanwhile, we are starting to hear Mahomes is killing it in practice. From the players.

Coaches aren't going to say it publicly, but they don't have to. Players know.

Herd on Sunday Night Football that the Chiefs are playing with no passion. Both before the game and at halftime.

I'm guessing the players know it's time to play the guy that gives the team the best chance.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 11-20-2017, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Mahomes was arguably the better prospect because he has a much higher ceiling - but also a lower floor.

I wanted Mahomes to get the #1 snaps from the start. I wanted the Chiefs to focus on him once he was drafted. Unfortunately Andy, and most of the posters who are currently freaking out, wanted him to sit a year or two. He didn't get the snaps and is probably not prepared.

Disagree with the lower floor and probably not prepared comments.

Otherwise, we're on the same page.

**SAUTO** · 11-20-2017, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

The OL is just ****ing fine.

The QB continues to get happy feet, look at the rush and run himself right into sacks.

Anyone catch the WASH/NO game yesterday?

Holy **** - Cousins stepped up into some ****ing bring the farm blitzes and delivered some strikes as he was getting crushed.

You don't see that from Alex. He's bailing at the first sign of pressure.

Alex also never seems to take advantage of a free play. Offside yesterday and he ran around and took a sack instead of just chucking it up

Best22 · 11-20-2017, 07:23 PM

Chiefs players want to win Superbowl
No rookie quarterback has won a Superbowl
Players know this
Andy doesn't want to upset players
Won't start Alex until there's more poor performances

Just my 2 cents

KCrockaholic · 11-20-2017, 07:27 PM

The OL is the same as it's been the last 4 years basically. They're an average to above average pass blocking group and and below average to bad run blocking group. It's been that way for a long time now. But that's the style Andy wants for his system.

He wants to finesse everybody with misdirection and smaller but athletic OL, but we don't have a bunch of maulers to push the DL back in the run game. LDT and Morse are good run blockers, but Fisher/(insert bum LG)/and Schwartz aren't up to par in the run game.

KCrockaholic · 11-20-2017, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Best22

Chiefs players want to win Superbowl
No rookie quarterback has won a Superbowl
Players know this
Andy doesn't want to upset players
Won't start Alex until there's more poor performances

Just my 2 cents

Game managers never win Super Bowls without a great defense either, so let's spin our wheels.

ARROW2 · 11-20-2017, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Best22

Chiefs players want to win Superbowl
No rookie quarterback has won a Superbowl
Players know this
Andy doesn't want to upset players
Won't start Alex until there's more poor performances

Just my 2 cents

Neither has Alex Smith and he NEVER will, so what are you scared of?

KChiefs1 · 11-20-2017, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Best22

Chiefs players want to win Superbowl

No rookie quarterback has won a Superbowl

Players know this

Andy doesn't want to upset players

Won't start Alex until there's more poor performances

Just my 2 cents

Do you really believe that the players think Alex Smith is going to lead them to a Super Bowl much less a Super Bowl win?

Best22 · 11-20-2017, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

Game managers never win Super Bowls without a great defense either, so let's spin our wheels.

I'm just expressing what I believe Reid's strategy might be

I think Reid is playing it safe. I think the offensive players want. Mahomes. The defensive players want Smith

That's what I think

ARROW2 · 11-20-2017, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Best22

I'm just expressing what I believe Reid's strategy might be

I think Reid is playing it safe. I think the offensive players want. Mahomes. The defensive players want Smith

That's what I think

Why the **** would the defensive players want Smiff? Makes no sense, especially if Mahomes is tearing that ass up every day in practice.

iDeaL · 11-20-2017, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

The posts in this thread is the reason why a lot of you morons should never coach a football team at any level. There is no internal QB controversy. Why some of you would hope there is when it would be bad for the Chiefs I wonder... Makes me question what you think is more important what is good for the Chiefs or how you can satisfy your irrational hatred of Smitty?

Despite his struggles recently he still is pretty much top 5-10 in all major QB categories

QB Rating - 107.6 - #2
Compl % - 69.4 - #2
Yds - 2,674 - #5 Yds/Gm - 267 - #7
TDs - 18 - #6
INTs - 3 - Tied #2

He's doing fine overall. We are struggling right now on offense and he had a really bad game but you don't bench the guy and start a raw rookie over that. Reid has a good enough of an offensive mind to figure things out and get this offense/Alex 'Montana' Smith on track.

Smitty will bounce back. #GoSmittyGoChiefs

So you honestly still believe Smith can lead us to a win over New England or Pittsburgh on the road in the playoffs? Look deep inside yourself to find the answer. If the answer is no, then why not get the kid a head start on next season and what would likely be a chance to play in a Wild Card game as well instead of watching Smith's tenure die a slow painful death?

Chiefshrink · 11-20-2017, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Why Not?

Of course. The KC media wouldn't ever dare ask any questions that had any bite at all

Exactly. They still want to be invited into the media room and don't want to be banned. Just like political pressers. Any journalist worth their salt that asks hard questions are either ignored or banned.

Chiefshrink · 11-20-2017, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu

Did you make all of this up?

Totally original but I put myself in a sports journalists shoes with my football eyes and how can you NOT ask Andy these questions ?

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-20-2017, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

Totally original but I put myself in a sports journalists shoes with my football eyes and how can you NOT ask these questions ?

Because you have zero understanding of professional sports lockerroom.

Chiefshrink · 11-20-2017, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Because you have zero understanding of professional sports lockerroom.

And of course, you do.

I'm not talking about the locker room asking players any how I am talking about the presser asking Reid the tough questions. But please tell me about your professional sports locker room experiences. I'm sure you have many stories since you have been "wounding vaginas since 2000 and like to let people know, "You are the most interesting man in the world" and have experienced it all !!

penchief · 11-20-2017, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

The posts in this thread is the reason why a lot of you morons should never coach a football team at any level. There is no internal QB controversy. Why some of you would hope there is when it would be bad for the Chiefs I wonder... Makes me question what you think is more important what is good for the Chiefs or how you can satisfy your irrational hatred of Smitty?

Despite his struggles recently he still is pretty much top 5-10 in all major QB categories

QB Rating - 107.6 - #2
Compl % - 69.4 - #2
Yds - 2,674 - #5 Yds/Gm - 267 - #7
TDs - 18 - #6
INTs - 3 - Tied #2

He's doing fine overall. We are struggling right now on offense and he had a really bad game but you don't bench the guy and start a raw rookie over that. Reid has a good enough of an offensive mind to figure things out and get this offense/Alex 'Montana' Smith on track.

Smitty will bounce back. #GoSmittyGoChiefs

Smitty is not a good quarterback. Smitty doesn't even pass the eye test anymore. Smitty doesn't do any of the things really good quarterbacks do. Smitty can't carry a team when needed. Smitty doesn't make those around him better. If it wasn't for Reid, Smitty would probably be nothing more than a stop gap journeyman somewhere.

When Mahomes played he made pedestrian players like Robinson, DAT, and Ross Travis look like really good players. Mahomes is already a better quarterback than Smitty.

Reid thought he could make chicken salad out of Smitty. And he tried hard. But now everybody except you and a few other Smitty first fans have come to obvious conclusion that Smitty is what he is. An above average game manager with below average QB talent and instincts.

I've always wanted Smitty to succeed but the Smitty first fans have soured me completely on that desire. He can't be replaced fast enough. Your obsession with Smitty and your need to refer to him as Smitty is creepy. I'm not sure why I find that annoying but I do. It is just stupid.

Hopefully you will follow Smitty when he leaves KC and become a fake fan of his new team, too.

11-20-2017, 06:39 AM
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11-20-2017, 07:23 PM	#123
Best22 MVP Join Date: May 2016 Location: World Boxing Champs Casino cash: $3500400	Chiefs players want to win Superbowl No rookie quarterback has won a Superbowl Players know this Andy doesn't want to upset players Won't start Alex until there's more poor performances Just my 2 cents
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KCrockaholic Sarcasm Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Olathe Casino cash: $4552900	The OL is the same as it's been the last 4 years basically. They're an average to above average pass blocking group and and below average to bad run blocking group. It's been that way for a long time now. But that's the style Andy wants for his system. He wants to finesse everybody with misdirection and smaller but athletic OL, but we don't have a bunch of maulers to push the DL back in the run game. LDT and Morse are good run blockers, but Fisher/(insert bum LG)/and Schwartz aren't up to par in the run game.
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