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Deberg_1990 · 09-16-2014, 09:10 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2014/0...ips-for-maids/

HOTELS
Hotel chain's program encourages tips for maids

NEW YORK – Do you leave a tip in your hotel room for the maid? Marriott is launching a program with Maria Shriver to put envelopes in hotel rooms to encourage tipping.

The campaign, called "The Envelope Please," begins this week. Envelopes will be placed in 160,000 rooms in the U.S. and Canada. Some 750 to 1,000 hotels will participate from Marriott brands like Courtyard, Residence Inn, J.W. Marriott, Ritz-Carlton and Renaissance hotels.

The name of the person who cleans the room will be written on the envelope along with a message: "Our caring room attendants enjoyed making your stay warm and comfortable. Please feel free to leave a gratuity to express your appreciation for their efforts."

Shriver, who founded an organization called A Woman's Nation that aims to empower women, says many travelers don't realize tipping hotel room attendants is customary. "There's a huge education of the traveler that needs to occur," she said. "If you tell them, they ask, 'How do I do that?'" She said envelopes make it easy for guests to leave cash for the right person in a secure way.

So how much should you leave? Marriott International CEO Arne Sorenson says $1 to $5 per night, depending on room rate, with more for a high-priced suite.

Michael Lynn, a professor at Cornell University's School of Hotel Administration, says his research shows that "30 percent of people stiff the maid," while 70 percent said they usually leave a tip.

Sorenson noted that housekeepers "are less frequently tipped" than other hotel workers because they do an "invisible task." In contrast, workers who carry bags, hail cabs and park cars tend to get tipped because they "make a personal connection" with guests, he said.

Rosario Rodriguez, who works as a housekeeper at Marriott's Times Square hotel, says many guests don't tip and welcomes the envelope campaign as "a good idea."

Jessica Lynn Strosky of DuBois, Pennsylvania, who earns $7.75 an hour cleaning rooms at a hotel that's not a Marriott, says only 1 in 15 or 20 guests leaves a tip. When they do, it's a dollar or two; she's lucky to get $20 a week in tips. "I've talked to lots of people who say they don't know they are supposed to tip," she said.

Unlike waitresses who earn less than minimum wage because tips are expected to raise their earnings, hotel housekeepers are paid minimum wage, and in expensive markets, substantially more. In Washington D.C., Sorenson said, Marriott housekeepers start in the mid-teens per hour.

Not everyone applauds the envelope concept. "It is not Marriott's responsibility to remind customers to tip; it's their responsibility to pay their workers enough so that tips aren't necessary," said author Barbara Ehrenreich, who tried working as a hotel maid for her 2001 book "Nickel and Dimed," which chronicled her experiences in low-wage jobs.

But Scott Lazerson, 42, who lives in Sundance, Utah, said he "had no idea" tipping was customary until his wife told him on a recent trip to Orlando. He said he "feels stupid" for not knowing all these years, and added: "Yes, the hotel industry needs to do a campaign about it."

DanT · 09-17-2014, 10:50 AM

Here are mean annual wage estimates from the Bureau of Labor Statistics from May, 2013, for some of the jobs discussed in this thread. I somehow thought that Waste Management Vehicle Operators got paid better than they do.

$20,420 Cashiers http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes412011.htm

$22,130. Maids and Housekeeping Cleaners http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes372012.htm

$37,890. Motor Vehicle Operators in the Waste Management and Remediation Services Industry http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/naics3_562000.htm

$50,890. Postal Service Mail Carriers http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/naics3_491000.htm

**ChiTown** · 09-17-2014, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanT

Here are mean annual wage estimates from the Bureau of Labor Statistics from May, 2013, for some of the jobs discussed in this thread. I somehow thought that Waste Management Vehicle Operators got paid better than they do.

$20,420 Cashiers http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes412011.htm

$22,130. Maids and Housekeeping Cleaners http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes372012.htm

$37,890. Motor Vehicle Operators in the Waste Management and Remediation Services Industry http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/naics3_562000.htm

$50,890. Postal Service Mail Carriers http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/naics3_491000.htm

The Maid wages are almost exactly what my starting salary was coming out of College...........

DanT · 09-17-2014, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown

The Maid wages are almost exactly what my starting salary was coming out of College...........

My first real job out of college was as a research assistant paying only $8.50 / hour for 20 hours a week. That was back in November, 1988. Since then my "hourly wage" (without adjusting for inflation) has increased about 8% per year on average, so this country has been very good to me. I finished a M.S. in statistics in 1995 and a PhD in statistics in 2006, both of which led to big pay increases.

BucEyedPea · 09-17-2014, 12:05 PM

I started out at $15 an hour out of art school, for my first professional work, in the late 80's and quickly went to $20 after taking another course post college. Then $75 and hour not too long after. A gal I graduated with started out at $20 as a graphic design major for her first job.

**srvy** · 09-17-2014, 12:28 PM

Worlds of fun 2.75 and hour 1973 or 74 when they first opened.

**Rain Man** · 09-17-2014, 12:46 PM

My first job was $2.10 an hour at my dad's A&W. I took some steps backwards after that because I was under 16 so for some bizarre reason I didn't fall under minimum wage standards. My next two jobs were $2.00 an hour at a steak house and $1.80 or $1.90 at a Dairy Queen. Minimum wage at this time ranged from about $2.35 to $2.70.

I finally turned 16 and got up to minimum wage at a different steak house and I think I worked my way up to about $3.70 or $3.90. After a few temporary college jobs, I got my engineering degree at a starting salary of $28,860 per year in 1986, and I was pretty sure that I was rich.

**ChiTown** · 09-17-2014, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanT

My first real job out of college was as a research assistant paying only $8.50 / hour for 20 hours a week. That was back in November, 1988. Since then my "hourly wage" (without adjusting for inflation) has increased about 8% per year on average, so this country has been very good to me. I finished a M.S. in statistics in 1995 and a PhD in statistics in 2006, both of which led to big pay increases.

- well done!

BWillie · 09-17-2014, 01:32 PM

My first job was pushing carts at Cub Foods for $6.25 an hour. Also sorting through cans as people returned them for deposit, and cleaning the bathroom. 16 years old. Tons of fun.

MTG#10 · 09-17-2014, 01:40 PM

How do they know its a tip and not just money you took out of your pockets and threw on the table? I left a couple bucks and some change once at a hotel in St Louis for a tip and when I got back to my room the room was cleaned and the money was still there...

**srvy** · 09-17-2014, 01:44 PM

I put it on the tip tray or the pillow with a ty note.

L.A. Chieffan · 09-17-2014, 01:53 PM

They know when you're checked out

sedated · 09-17-2014, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod

Nope. I usually leave the DND sign up for my stay. There's no reason to have my room cleaned every damn day.

This, I don't even want them in there with my stuff. I'm not a slob, the room will stay clean enough until I check out.

Deberg_1990 · 09-17-2014, 04:04 PM

How many of you guys tip your Sonic server?

**ChiTown** · 09-17-2014, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

How many of you guys tip your Sonic server?

If they bring my shit to the car, I generally give them my loose change

eDave · 09-17-2014, 04:12 PM

I tip the following:

Curbside airline baggage check in ( I used to do this job )
Valet - In and out
Bellhop
Room service, excluding cleaning
Waiters (and if I can, I tip the cook). Nothing for carry-out.
Barber/Fiance's hairdresser
Showed up for a New Years celebration just a few minutes before midnight. A staff member made sure we had champagne. Tipped that dude.

09-16-2014, 09:10 PM
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3454454	Do you tip your hotel maid? http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2014/0...ips-for-maids/ HOTELS Hotel chain's program encourages tips for maids NEW YORK – Do you leave a tip in your hotel room for the maid? Marriott is launching a program with Maria Shriver to put envelopes in hotel rooms to encourage tipping. The campaign, called "The Envelope Please," begins this week. Envelopes will be placed in 160,000 rooms in the U.S. and Canada. Some 750 to 1,000 hotels will participate from Marriott brands like Courtyard, Residence Inn, J.W. Marriott, Ritz-Carlton and Renaissance hotels. The name of the person who cleans the room will be written on the envelope along with a message: "Our caring room attendants enjoyed making your stay warm and comfortable. Please feel free to leave a gratuity to express your appreciation for their efforts." Shriver, who founded an organization called A Woman's Nation that aims to empower women, says many travelers don't realize tipping hotel room attendants is customary. "There's a huge education of the traveler that needs to occur," she said. "If you tell them, they ask, 'How do I do that?'" She said envelopes make it easy for guests to leave cash for the right person in a secure way. So how much should you leave? Marriott International CEO Arne Sorenson says $1 to $5 per night, depending on room rate, with more for a high-priced suite. Michael Lynn, a professor at Cornell University's School of Hotel Administration, says his research shows that "30 percent of people stiff the maid," while 70 percent said they usually leave a tip. Sorenson noted that housekeepers "are less frequently tipped" than other hotel workers because they do an "invisible task." In contrast, workers who carry bags, hail cabs and park cars tend to get tipped because they "make a personal connection" with guests, he said. Rosario Rodriguez, who works as a housekeeper at Marriott's Times Square hotel, says many guests don't tip and welcomes the envelope campaign as "a good idea." Jessica Lynn Strosky of DuBois, Pennsylvania, who earns $7.75 an hour cleaning rooms at a hotel that's not a Marriott, says only 1 in 15 or 20 guests leaves a tip. When they do, it's a dollar or two; she's lucky to get $20 a week in tips. "I've talked to lots of people who say they don't know they are supposed to tip," she said. Unlike waitresses who earn less than minimum wage because tips are expected to raise their earnings, hotel housekeepers are paid minimum wage, and in expensive markets, substantially more. In Washington D.C., Sorenson said, Marriott housekeepers start in the mid-teens per hour. Not everyone applauds the envelope concept. "It is not Marriott's responsibility to remind customers to tip; it's their responsibility to pay their workers enough so that tips aren't necessary," said author Barbara Ehrenreich, who tried working as a hotel maid for her 2001 book "Nickel and Dimed," which chronicled her experiences in low-wage jobs. But Scott Lazerson, 42, who lives in Sundance, Utah, said he "had no idea" tipping was customary until his wife told him on a recent trip to Orlando. He said he "feels stupid" for not knowing all these years, and added: "Yes, the hotel industry needs to do a campaign about it."
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eDave Banned Join Date: Jan 2013 Casino cash: $9998560	I tip the following: Curbside airline baggage check in ( I used to do this job ) Valet - In and out Bellhop Room service, excluding cleaning Waiters (and if I can, I tip the cook). Nothing for carry-out. Barber/Fiance's hairdresser Showed up for a New Years celebration just a few minutes before midnight. A staff member made sure we had champagne. Tipped that dude.
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