Chiefs How good, exactly, is Branden Albert. - Page 9

Direckshun · 03-21-2013, 06:45 PM

Here's a list of the starting left tackles from last year, according to NFL.com:

Nate Solder (Patriots)
D'Brickashaw Ferguson (Jets)
Jake Long (Dolphins)
Cordy Glenn (Bills)

Bryant McKinnie (Ravens)
Max Starks (Steelers)
Andrew Whitworth (Bengals)
Joe Thomas (Browns)

Anthony Castonzo (Colts)
Eugene Monroe (Jaguars)
Michael Roos (Titans)
Duane Brown (Texans)

Branden Albert (Chiefs)
Ryan Clady (Broncos)
Michael Harris (Chargers)
Jared Veldeer (Raiders)

Will Beatty (Giants)
Tyron Smith (Cowboys)
Trent Williams (Redskins)
King Dunlap (Eagles)

J'Marcus Webb (Bears)
Marshall Newhouse (Packers)
Jeff Backus (Lions)
Matt Kalil (Vikings)

Jerman Bushrod (Saints)
Donald Penn (Buccaneers)
Jordan Gross (Panthers)
Sam Baker (Falcons)

Joe Staley (49ers)
Levi Brown (Cardinals)
Russell Okung (Seahawks)
Roger Saffold (Rams)

You want to call Branden Albert a top 10 LT? Then list specifically where he lands in this list.

Keep in mind, we're probably going to have at least three new ones next year in Bryan Bulaga (Packers), Mike Adams (if he can beat out Starks in Pittsburgh), Luke Joeckel (whomever drafts him) and Eric Fisher (same).

03-22-2013, 12:38 AM

He seems a little selfish to me. Seriously though, he's the elite of the average. Ten-Fifteen area. He's not a stud but he's not bad enough to dump either. I wish he were top five but I'm not convinced. I won't be upset if he's gone and the Chiefs get a quality pick in his place and I won't be upset if they end up paying him way more than my entire family will make in our lifetimes for 16 games in 2013.

patteeu · 03-22-2013, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

Seriously though, he's the elite of the average. Ten-Fifteen area. He's not a stud but he's not bad enough to dump either. I wish he were top five but I'm not convinced. I won't be upset if he's gone and the Chiefs get a quality pick in his place and I won't be upset if they end up paying him way more than my entire family will make in our lifetimes for 16 games in 2013.

That's about what I think of him. Good enough to not need to be replaced, not good enough to be a consistent difference maker.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-22-2013, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Which previously lived up in your stupid ass and are likely to return shortly.

Boomerang, Mother****er.

Since were going that route; have you pulled Cassel's digeradoo out of your ass and passed it on to Alex yet?

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(That's Australian for "**** you, mate")
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**BigMeatballDave** · 03-22-2013, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

Again, you act like Albert is something special at LT. If he was, he would have been drafted with the #1 pick of the draft at LT, not at #15 as a guard. He's panned out ok, he's been a good but not great LT.

As for Joeckel, if he's drafted #1 there's a reason for it. He may not be drafted #1 but there's a good possibility he will be. It is what it is whether you agree with it or not.

How many sacks did Clady give up last year?

I think 1 sack is pretty special.

Albert was drafted as a LT, dumbass.

**BigMeatballDave** · 03-22-2013, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

He seems a little selfish to me. Seriously though, he's the elite of the average. Ten-Fifteen area. He's not a stud but he's not bad enough to dump either. I wish he were top five but I'm not convinced. I won't be upset if he's gone and the Chiefs get a quality pick in his place and I won't be upset if they end up paying him way more than my entire family will make in our lifetimes for 16 games in 2013.

So, only giving up one sack while protecting 2 shitty QBs is average/top 15?

RunKC · 03-22-2013, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Here's a list of the starting left tackles from last year, according to NFL.com:

Nate Solder (Patriots)
D'Brickashaw Ferguson (Jets)
Jake Long (Dolphins)
Cordy Glenn (Bills)

Bryant McKinnie (Ravens)
Max Starks (Steelers)
Andrew Whitworth (Bengals)
Joe Thomas (Browns)

Anthony Castonzo (Colts)
Eugene Monroe (Jaguars)
Michael Roos (Titans)
Duane Brown (Texans)

Branden Albert (Chiefs)
Ryan Clady (Broncos)
Michael Harris (Chargers)
Jared Veldeer (Raiders)

Will Beatty (Giants)
Tyron Smith (Cowboys)
Trent Williams (Redskins)
King Dunlap (Eagles)

J'Marcus Webb (Bears)
Marshall Newhouse (Packers)
Jeff Backus (Lions)
Matt Kalil (Vikings)

Jerman Bushrod (Saints)
Donald Penn (Buccaneers)
Jordan Gross (Panthers)
Sam Baker (Falcons)

Joe Staley (49ers)
Levi Brown (Cardinals)
Russell Okung (Seahawks)
Roger Saffold (Rams)

Only those LT's are one's you could argue are better in the last 2 years.
Jeff Backus was good last year but he's retired.

**BigMeatballDave** · 03-22-2013, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

not good enough to be a consistent difference maker.

1 sack given up is not a difference maker?

King_Chief_Fan · 03-22-2013, 05:47 AM

good enough to keep one more year while we draft his replacement

TomBarndtsTwin · 03-22-2013, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

good enough to keep one more year while we draft his replacement

This.

They're not going to give him and his agent the contract they want, so this is what Reid and Dorsey will do . . . .

Deberg_1990 · 03-22-2013, 07:09 AM

How does he compare to the final 4 teams LT of last season?

Point is, Albert could be the reincarnation of Willie Roaf, Orlando Pace and Anthony Munoz, and it still wouldnt matter until we get a QB. But if you put Albert on any of those final 4 teams from last season, ill bet they end up with the same results.

**RealSNR** · 03-22-2013, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

How does he compare to the final 4 teams LT of last season?

Point is, Albert could be the reincarnation of Willie Roaf, Orlando Pace and Anthony Munoz, and it still wouldnt matter until we get a QB. But if you put Albert on any of those final 4 teams from last season, ill bet they end up with the same results.

Winnar!

lcarus · 03-22-2013, 11:22 AM

It really sucks that we all thought last seasons suffering was going to help us turn this franchise around with a top pick, and instead, all it's going to do apparently is help replace a LT that's already great with a rookie that's unknown.

Hey...you don't have a 20 year playoff drought for being competent. Dumb ****ing assholes.

Hammock Parties · 03-22-2013, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

How does he compare to the final 4 teams LT of last season?

Point is, Albert could be the reincarnation of Willie Roaf, Orlando Pace and Anthony Munoz, and it still wouldnt matter until we get a QB. But if you put Albert on any of those final 4 teams from last season, ill bet they end up with the same results.

The Ravens pulled Bryant McKinnie off the scrap heap.

Molitoth · 03-22-2013, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by thurman merman

Does anybody honestly pay so much attention to football that you can rank 32 left tackles? This seems slightly insane to me.

No shit, lol. Who sits around and watches the LT play in every game?

These ranking are based mearly off of reputation/PFF rankings/and statistics.

I will call bullshit on anyone claiming to use the good ol eye test on 32 LT's... which we all know is the best way to judge.

This is the same reason the world thought Matt Cassel was good in 2010. They looked at his stats and didn't watch him play.

Mr. Laz · 03-22-2013, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

How does he compare to the final 4 teams LT of last season?

Point is, Albert could be the reincarnation of Willie Roaf, Orlando Pace and Anthony Munoz, and it still wouldnt matter until we get a QB. But if you put Albert on any of those final 4 teams from last season, ill bet they end up with the same results.

every player on the Chiefs would be a hall-of-famer if it wasn't for a our QB!!!

03-21-2013, 06:45 PM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4173447	How good, exactly, is Branden Albert. Here's a list of the starting left tackles from last year, according to NFL.com: Nate Solder (Patriots) D'Brickashaw Ferguson (Jets) Jake Long (Dolphins) Cordy Glenn (Bills) Bryant McKinnie (Ravens) Max Starks (Steelers) Andrew Whitworth (Bengals) Joe Thomas (Browns) Anthony Castonzo (Colts) Eugene Monroe (Jaguars) Michael Roos (Titans) Duane Brown (Texans) Branden Albert (Chiefs) Ryan Clady (Broncos) Michael Harris (Chargers) Jared Veldeer (Raiders) Will Beatty (Giants) Tyron Smith (Cowboys) Trent Williams (Redskins) King Dunlap (Eagles) J'Marcus Webb (Bears) Marshall Newhouse (Packers) Jeff Backus (Lions) Matt Kalil (Vikings) Jerman Bushrod (Saints) Donald Penn (Buccaneers) Jordan Gross (Panthers) Sam Baker (Falcons) Joe Staley (49ers) Levi Brown (Cardinals) Russell Okung (Seahawks) Roger Saffold (Rams) You want to call Branden Albert a top 10 LT? Then list specifically where he lands in this list. Keep in mind, we're probably going to have at least three new ones next year in Bryan Bulaga (Packers), Mike Adams (if he can beat out Starks in Pittsburgh), Luke Joeckel (whomever drafts him) and Eric Fisher (same).
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03-22-2013, 12:38 AM	#121
Phobia Guest Casino cash: $	He seems a little selfish to me. Seriously though, he's the elite of the average. Ten-Fifteen area. He's not a stud but he's not bad enough to dump either. I wish he were top five but I'm not convinced. I won't be upset if he's gone and the Chiefs get a quality pick in his place and I won't be upset if they end up paying him way more than my entire family will make in our lifetimes for 16 games in 2013.
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03-22-2013, 07:09 AM	#130
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3634454	How does he compare to the final 4 teams LT of last season? Point is, Albert could be the reincarnation of Willie Roaf, Orlando Pace and Anthony Munoz, and it still wouldnt matter until we get a QB. But if you put Albert on any of those final 4 teams from last season, ill bet they end up with the same results. __________________ Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning: Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down. One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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03-22-2013, 11:22 AM	#132
lcarus Everybody Lies. Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: 22 Acacia Avenue Casino cash: $1509928	It really sucks that we all thought last seasons suffering was going to help us turn this franchise around with a top pick, and instead, all it's going to do apparently is help replace a LT that's already great with a rookie that's unknown. Hey...you don't have a 20 year playoff drought for being competent. Dumb ****ing assholes.
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