Mayock sees four options for the Chiefs at No. 1

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Mayock sees four options for Chiefs at No. 1

Posted by Mike Florio on February 19, 2013, 9:02 AM EST

APOn Monday, preeminent draft guru Mike Mayock participated in a pre-Combine conference call that lasted more than 2.5 hours. Tirelessly answering question after question, Mayock demonstrated once again a computerized recall of names and teams and needs.

With plenty of interest focused on what will happen at the top of the draft, Mayock eventually was asked to identify the players he believes to be worthy of the first overall pick, held by the Chiefs.

Mayock said there are four: Alabama guard Chance Warmack; North Carolina guard Jonathan Cooper; Texas A&M tackle Luke Joeckel; and Central Michigan tackle Eric Fisher.

Warmack is Mayock’s preference. “People will tell me I’m crazy, that a guard can’t go No. 1,” Mayock explained. “I think he’s the best player in the draft, so I would argue that.”

The list doesn’t create the kind of sizzle to which we’ve become accustomed at the top of the draft. And for good reason. There are no quarterbacks regarded as worthy of being the first overall pick this year.

Mayock realizes that the Chiefs’ needs could be influenced by their decision regarding tackle Branden Albert (who could actually move to guard if a guy like Joeckel is drafted with the first pick). Still, Chiefs coach Andy Reid learned the hard way in 2012 the importance of having a high-end offensive live. With a cluster of high-quality blockers at the top of the draft and a rookie wage scale to keep the total cost far less than what it would be to sign Albert to a long-term deal, the Chiefs could opt for the lineman whom they decide they like the most.

And then they’d hope that the rest of the teams agree with G.M. John Dorsey’s assessment that none of the quarterbacks merit a first-round selection. Which would push all of the quarterbacks to the Chiefs at the top of round two.

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

Buffalo ??????

Buffalo can sit right where they are and be in the catbird's seat to get Mike Glennon, who their GM has openly coveted in the media.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Buffalo can sit right where they are and be in the catbird's seat to get Mike Glennon, who their GM has openly coveted in the media.

Not if Dorsey starts negotiating a contract with Glennon.

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

Not if Dorsey starts negotiating a contract with Glennon.

If the Bills want to trade up for Glennon...well....

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

If the Bills want to trade up for Glennon...well....

Iknow. But the thing is , you never know what a team is thinking , Look at what Washington gave up last year to get RGIII. Look what Dallas has given up to go get players. Or the Raiders. The Bears (Ricky Williams). Hell, if we were sitting at #10 right now, half this board would be saying we should trade up to get Geno.

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

Iknow. But the thing is , you never know what a team is thinking , Look at what Washington gave up last year to get RGIII. Look what Dallas has given up to go get players. Or the Raiders. The Bears (Ricky Williams). Hell, if we were sitting at #10 right now, half this board would be saying we should trade up to get Geno.

That's the nice thing about having the #1 pick, we don't have to trade up!

[milkman]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

So, before the Combines and Pro Day workouts, who is that difference maker in the 2013 draft?

From all I've read, the same guy at #1 has the same talent as #25.

Who you got?

In this discussion Dane, you are being the dumbass.

You are parroting the opinions of "experts" that you have dismissed as clueless **** in previous years.

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

What we're trying to tell you is :

#1) We all know that KC will not field the same QB next year (Cassel / Quinn)
#2) Reid and Dorsey will evaluate the QB talent available in the Draft, which Dorsey has ALREADY made the comment "there is NO 1st round grade QB talent in this draft"
#3) There are OTHER OPTIONS to acquire a QB.
#4) WArmack is in many peoples opinion the BEST player in the draft.
#5) Dorsey has stated HIS PHILOSOPHY is to draft the BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE.

IMO, it would be unjustified to draft a guard at #1 even though Warmack is the BEST PLAYER IN THIS DRAFT. Logic stands to find a trade partner that has a hardon for Geno and trade down and acquire Warmack at 5-10 thus recieving additional draft picks and select one of the top 5 QBs' in the 2nd round that will still be there. After all WE DO NEED A GUARD and since one is available that will secure the position for the next 10-15 years we should get him. That helps our line and still gives us our QB from the draft .

Not sure if srs

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Even if Geno doesn't live up to the hype we've created here at the planet, a QB of Andy Dalton calibre does more for a team than guard of Will Shields calibre or a LT of Jake Long calibre.

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Originally Posted by milkman

Even if Geno doesn't live up to the hype we've created here at the planet, a QB of Andy Dalton calibre does more for a team than guard of Will Shields calibre or a LT of Jake Long calibre.

Stop trying to talk sense to these people who think we need and Olineman. Good grief it seems like the Chief Concerns FB dumbassery is starting to spill over here.

[milkman]

Further, if Trent Green isn't a damn good QB, Willie Roaf's impact on this team's fortunes would have been minimalized.

[Messier]

Originally Posted by milkman

Even if Geno doesn't live up to the hype we've created here at the planet, a QB of Andy Dalton calibre does more for a team than guard of Will Shields calibre or a LT of Jake Long calibre.

But what if their favorite QB is one that will be there at 34? What if they feel he can be Andy Dalton? So, then they can have the Tackle and QB they want.

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Originally Posted by milkman

Further, if Trent Green isn't a damn good QB, Willie Roaf's impact on this team's fortunes would have been minimalized.

True. But there again look at what happened when Roaf reired. Green lasted all of 2 games before he was destroyed for life and we've been ****ed since.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Messier

But what if their favorite QB is one that will be there at 34? What if they feel he can be Andy Dalton? So, then they can have the Tackle and QB they want.

Let's, for the sake of argument, assume that this class is as weak as the "experts" say.

In that case, the likelyhood of finding Andy Dalton in the second round is virtually non exstent.

No matter how you approach it, passing on QB in this draft, which has no elite talent at any position, is a bad decision.

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

True. But there again look at what happened when Roaf reired. Green lasted all of 2 games before he was destroyed for life and we've been ****ed since.

He was cheap shotted.

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

True. But there again look at what happened when Roaf reired. Green lasted all of 2 games before he was destroyed for life and we've been ****ed since.

Not relevant.

Minus Roaf, we plugged in I-65. Hence, TG was DOOMED!
Minus Jackoff, we still have Fat Albert. Think that's a-ok.