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Old 07-20-2017, 12:33 PM  
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Chester Bennington commits suicide

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Old 07-20-2017, 08:40 PM   #121
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Chester had a molester. Well that's unfortunate.

Sucks he offed himself. Guess he lived a pretty interesting life before at least.
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Old 07-20-2017, 08:41 PM   #122
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In THIS hypothetical's case... THIS man did not really regard religion.

Yet you suggest to me that he is shit outta luck?

I'll wait for clarification, before I tell you to seriously give far more thought to your position on this.
God is not religion.

...if he heard the Word and was in opposition...he's not unique. or alone.
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Old 07-20-2017, 08:48 PM   #123
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Old 07-20-2017, 08:58 PM   #124
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Korn was mentioned a few times earlier in this thread. I'm pretty surprised Jon Davis hasn't offed himself yet. That has to be coming at some point.
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Old 07-20-2017, 09:00 PM   #125
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Korn was mentioned a few times earlier in this thread. I'm pretty surprised Jon Davis hasn't offed himself yet. That has to be coming at some point.
Maybe his belief in God is over-riding his depression?
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Old 07-20-2017, 09:03 PM   #126
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Korn was mentioned a few times earlier in this thread. I'm pretty surprised Jon Davis hasn't offed himself yet. That has to be coming at some point.
Im sure Eddie Veder is next.
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Old 07-20-2017, 09:05 PM   #127
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Im sure Eddie Veder is next.
Shut your whore mouth with that shit.
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Old 07-20-2017, 09:07 PM   #128
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Maybe his belief in God is over-riding his depression?
I actually looked him up after I made that comment. Seems he has adjusted some.

http://loudwire.com/korn-jonathan-da...ssion-anxiety/
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Old 07-20-2017, 09:09 PM   #129
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Maybe his belief in God is over-riding his depression?
It did for Head.
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Old 07-20-2017, 09:10 PM   #130
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I actually looked him up after I made that comment. Seems he has adjusted some.

http://loudwire.com/korn-jonathan-da...ssion-anxiety/
I've always felt his music helped him a lot. Pretty angry stuff early on. Like scream therapy.
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Old 07-20-2017, 09:18 PM   #131
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not in the mood for interpretation... spit it out. Say. what. you. mean.
What that verse means is that we denounce ourselves and what we want for what God's will is for us.

Picking up your cross means dying to the flesh like Jesus did and living the way He wants you to live and doing what He wants you to do.
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Old 07-20-2017, 09:19 PM   #132
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God is not religion.

...if he heard the Word and was in opposition...he's not unique. or alone.
so, you are refusing to simply answer and discuss anything directly concerning this... our.. particular discussion.

Now why might this be?

The only reason I can see for this.. is bizarre trouble with what was a simple line of discussion.. or that you don't want to actually explain how poor Joe is condemned to nothingness or hell.
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Old 07-20-2017, 09:21 PM   #133
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Every description of God that I’ve heard holds God to be all powerful, and all good. I look around and I see a tsunami kill a quarter-million in Indonesia or an earthquake kill a quarter-million people in Haiti. I do not see evidence of both of those being true simultaneously. If there is a God, he is either not all powerful or not all good. He can’t be BOTH. Let's ignore the slavery and the treatment of women and killing off all homosexuals but believe that this "man in the sky" loves us
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Old 07-20-2017, 09:22 PM   #134
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and this alone will be the part I point to, CS.

"but the Lord looks at the heart.”

So hand me a thought to a hypothetical. Man named Joe. Lives a boring, considerate life. Never focused a bit on religion or matters out of sight. Cares about things around him.

Wife of 40 years... two children.. all slaughtered to death by an intruding killer.

Joe has no one and nothing else in this world that matters anywhere near what they did. Joe gets really sad, and puts a bullet through the roof of his mouth a week later.

You going to tell me or anyone else that a higher power won't take him in?
I would say that there is a very good chance, depending on who Joe was, that he could be turned away.
I'm not going to tell you that for sure because I don't know. Nobody does.
I really get rubbed the wrong way by a lot of religious people who act like they do.
I truly believe that The Man may have changed his stance on a lot of things after 2000 moreyears of watching us **** up.
He's done it before.
The first time, he wiped us out.
The 2nd time, realizing we are a bunch of heathens, he offered us a path to forgiveness.
So it's not unprecedented that he might do that.

I also think it's very possible that, knowing how stupid and filthy we are, he made damnation as scary as possible to keep our dicks in our pants and our guns out of our mouths.

I have been under God's umbrella of grace, and so deep in the abyss that the light could not even be seen.
Lived with people as pure and Holy as a human can be, and slept on floors with people that will no doubt feel the true terror of eternal damnation.

I have strong opinion on a lot of these topics and live in an area where 95% of people you encounter will roll their eyes the very second you mention of any of this.
I was raised to believe that those people are going to burn in hell.
Through all of this, combined with everything I have studied and learned, and there is nothing I have delved deeper into, I have formed the opinion that the God I know will not just "damn" someone because they were raised to believe something different than me, or without Faith at all for that matter.

It's Easy for me. It's not even "Faith" for me anymore. I was raised to slightlyunderstand and recognize the Lord. I give him a nod when I feel his Grace and he usually gives me confirmation.
BUT who am I to say that if I was raised without that, that I wouldn't have blown my head off all those years ago....I'm betting I would have.

Anyway, back to my point.
Some people are going to be sent Hell.
And they will share it with the worst of the worst......AND those who willingly aided the Luciferian agenda, and BELIEVE ME, there are shit ton more of these people than you would ever imagine.

For everyone else, we will be judged, but just because we are turned away from Heaven, does that necessarily mean instant Capital Panishment.
I believe there is either a void, or some kind of purgatory.
I have to to be able to rationalize what happens good people, Peaceful Muslims, and other excellent humans when they face judgement.
I believe you can be one with the universe or existence and have no shot at Heaven yet still be susceptible to offers to join Lucifer in his quest to overthrow God..

That is, maybe, until God changes his mind..
None of us know shit about how he really feels about us RIGHT NOW.

Ok, sorry for the TLDR.
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Old 07-20-2017, 09:23 PM   #135
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What that verse means is that we denounce ourselves and what we want for what God's will is for us.

Picking up your cross means dying to the flesh like Jesus did and living the way He wants you to live and doing what He wants you to do.
- so we are not allowed to have a preference to what happens for our.. soul? We must denounce our preference.. because it's important to give that over?

- so we must live an extremely specifically defined way or suffer the fate of eternal condemnation?

How dies that affect... Joe?
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