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Swat raid Kansas home. Couple spends $25k to find out why.
http://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/...o-familys-home
Full story at the link. Summary with excerpts below. SWAT raids a leawood couples home with guns drawn. Put them and their young kids on their couch. Find nothing illegal, and seize nothing. Kansas law prevents them from finding out why they were raided. Quote:
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03-27-2014, 10:56 PM | #121 |
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I'm much more concerned with how politicians are ruining this great country, pissing on the constitution
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03-27-2014, 10:59 PM | #122 |
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I should have been more clear. He used to collect daily data on this and post it on his blog "The Agitator". He and I have a fairly similar position on drunk driving laws, which is how I began following him.
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03-27-2014, 11:07 PM | #123 | |
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Lives, both civilian and LEO are being put at risk for reasons that don't add up. Dude, I've heard the stories firsthand... my Mom directed training classes for LEO for 23 years, I've yapped with many cops and pushed them for stories... I get that, swear I do... there are a LOT of idiots and straight up bad jacks out there. But its this feeling in communities across America these days that ANY crime, even if you weren't a part of it and your family was flashbanged and drug out of bed at 3am because of something the NEIGHBOR was suspected of doing and they got the wrong house. All too often anymore police are defending these mistakes... "it was unfortunate, but no one was ultimately harmed" as if that's a decent excuse,l what if this innocent family man shoots back at his bedroom door being kicked in by mistake? That's what I'm asking you to think about. I GET that LEO are in danger every single day, swear I do and the bigger the town the bigger the threat... but it just seems like too many of you guys are willing to kick ass and ask questions later, like its becoming official policy. You're cool by me and I believe you to be one of the good guys, the guy I hope shows up when I need help... but the fact is, people are more and more becoming reluctant to trust the police. Is it our fault, or the police? |
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03-27-2014, 11:25 PM | #124 | |
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First off, I want to apologize for my behavior. I suppose that, just like you, I, as well as a lot of others here get a little "sensitive" about these issues and, when confronted, react harshly. I have never looked at the police as "pigs" - My Uncle would have kicked my ass - and I have never felt that way to begin with. Unfortunately, it is usually the young and the hot-tempered who love that invective. I am neither young, nor can I afford (at my age) to be hot tempered any longer. My "ass-kicking" days are well behind me. This country is changing before our eyes. Since my birth in 1949 - I have seen this country change in ways that, frankly, perplex the living hell out of me. Part of that is age and another part is probably a bit of paranoia (again - age) of current events. Unfortunately, we do have a problem in the United States with "some" of these organizations that are purported to "protect" the citizens taking too much of the "law into their hands" and becoming "Judge, Jury and executioner". Unfortunately, it is happening much more frequently today and seems to only be getting worse. Since the original post on the homeless man in New Mexico, I have began research ( what the hell else do I have to do?) and some of the things transpiring within the bounds of the United States are extremely disturbing. Here is an example of what I am talking about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNlLcyu8m6E This is an incredibly long, drawn out video of what can happen in a matter of a couple of hours to a man who "didn't stop" when he should have and took the PA State Police on a "slow speed" chase. The Troopers were in no danger whatsoever, this individual never ran a stop light, a stop sign or ever broke any law other than not stopping. Frankly, I think the guy is mildly reeruned. If not before, most definitely now. Understand, I am NOT taking this man's side, with the exception that the beating he takes - you wouldn't do to your worst enemy. Again, Officer Coffey, I apologize for my rude and boorish behavior and again, I applaud your service. |
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Quite frankly, there really isn't any hope for you. Your statement shows you are a true believer in the gateway drug theory. But fail to recognize the even more true gateway drugs, tobacco and alcohol. Which I would put money on that you are a user of at least one, if not both. The problem I have with LEO taking the know-it-all path concerning drug use, as if we normal citizens don't go through it with our own families, friends and co-workers, is that you are no more an authority on drug use than any one else. You may like to think you are, but in reality you are not. You know what a very small percentage of drug users, who just happen to the dregs of society do. So in other words, your experience with drug users probably isn't very representative of them as a whole. Just like you say the vast majority of LEO's aren't abusive, the vast majority of drug users aren't as LEO likes to portray them. |
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03-28-2014, 07:42 AM | #129 |
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pretty much this. As for this couple and the swat raid, I think if the police make a mistake, they should just admit it and everyone can move on. I'd be mad as hell if my home got raided for no reason and then the local law enforcement pulled the "talk to the hand" routine. That's not how you garner respect from the general public.
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03-28-2014, 07:48 AM | #130 |
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I don't think they care about respect to be honest. They can simply do what they want, any time they want.
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03-28-2014, 08:05 AM | #131 |
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That's some seriously ****ed up logic. Almost everyone doing crack/meth/heroin (which are COMPLETELY different drugs with COMPLETELY different effects ) have drank a glass of water at some point. WATER IS A GATEWAY DRUG!!! Arrest everyone! |
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the feds are a lot worse than local law enforcement. The ATF is a joke, the department of Justice and Eric Holder is a joke.
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03-28-2014, 01:00 PM | #135 |
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Sorry you don't like it, water is legal while weed is not. As far as politicians and police being the same, take a class kind sir, politicians MAKE the laws you despise so much. Police only enforce them...
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