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Jamie · 10-10-2013, 04:11 PM

With the exception of Firefly, all Whedon shows have taken a while to get their legs underneath them. Hopefully they'll get into a season arc soon, assuming ABC is letting them do one.

keg in kc · 10-11-2013, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamie

With the exception of Firefly, all Whedon shows have taken a while to get their legs underneath them. Hopefully they'll get into a season arc soon, assuming ABC is letting them do one.

Firefly was a mess at the time. I'm not sure if you watched it back in '03, but for the people who didn't the first episode to air was "The Train Job", not the pilot ("Serenity"). Because Fox didn't like the pilot. Which eventually ended up nominated for a Hugo award. And that was just the first scheduling screwup by Fox. They aired a bunch of the episodes out of order. Which made it difficult at times to follow what was going on (characters would sometimes allude to things the audience hadn't even seen yet...).

Jamie · 10-11-2013, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Firefly was a mess at the time. I'm not sure if you watched it back in '03, but for the people who didn't the first episode to air was "The Train Job", not the pilot ("Serenity"). Because Fox didn't like the pilot. Which eventually ended up nominated for a Hugo award. And that was just the first scheduling screwup by Fox. They aired a bunch of the episodes out of order. Which made it difficult at times to follow what was going on (characters would sometimes allude to things the audience hadn't even seen yet...).

I did watch it as it originally aired in 03, and my recollection is that even out of order it was clear three or four episodes in that it was gelling in a way that Buffy and Angel didn't until their second seasons.

I just looked up the aired order and 3rd through 5th episodes aired were Our Mrs. Reynolds, Jaynetown, and Out of Gas, so yeah. I remember there were references you didn't get in those episodes, but nothing that prevented you from following what was happening. It didn't really get confusing until after Out of Gas, when they jumped back to show the episodes they skipped.

Psyko Tek · 10-11-2013, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Firefly was a mess at the time. I'm not sure if you watched it back in '03, but for the people who didn't the first episode to air was "The Train Job", not the pilot ("Serenity"). Because Fox didn't like the pilot. Which eventually ended up nominated for a Hugo award. And that was just the first scheduling screwup by Fox. They aired a bunch of the episodes out of order. Which made it difficult at times to follow what was going on (characters would sometimes allude to things the audience hadn't even seen yet...).

I am a big firefly fan,
and here is how it happened
I was pissed fox canceled the dark angel (jessica alba) series
buy never took the record of my VCR we went to the drive in every friday to see what was ion
one night I came home
interweb was out
and a started watching what was recorded saw the evil german catch and torture mal and walsh so went to bittorrent to catch up
fell in love when crow got kicked into the engine

and now I am waiting for that magic to happen on shield

they have got a full season
bring on the calvary( i do not know her name) as lead
and as coulson realizes he is an LMD he will go renagade
and let the team figure out his private agenda

Psyko Tek · 10-11-2013, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie

With the exception of Firefly, all Whedon shows have taken a while to get their legs underneath them. Hopefully they'll get into a season arc soon, assuming ABC is letting them do one.

Joss just made them a billion on the avengers I think he can play in tv if he wants to
please give me an after serenity

Aries Walker · 10-11-2013, 04:43 PM

My problem with this show is that most of the characters aren't very interesting. Coulson was a great supporting character in the movies, but they're overdoing him here - granted, they've toned it back a little since the first episode, where every line he had was a smartass quip, but he's coming across as really contrived. Fitz and Simmons are glorified props, the same quirky, childish, idiosyncratic tech support/comic relief characters that so many police procedurals (Criminal Minds, NCIS, Hawaii Five-O) seem to have these days. The main dude character is dull, and his actor isn't very good. Melinda May isn't doing anything. Sky(e?) is as good as it gets, and even she's too much on the cutesy side.

I do like the tone, the setting, the special effects, the action scenes, most of the dialogue, how it fits in with the Avengers world, and even the simplistic plots. They all more or less work for me. It's been picked up for a full 22; I predict major cameos and the giving-away of Coulson's 'secret' for November sweeps.

Pitt Gorilla · 10-11-2013, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Aries Walker

My problem with this show is that most of the characters aren't very interesting. Coulson was a great supporting character in the movies, but they're overdoing him here - granted, they've toned it back a little since the first episode, where every line he had was a smartass quip, but he's coming across as really contrived. Fitz and Simmons are glorified props, the same quirky, childish, idiosyncratic tech support/comic relief characters that so many police procedurals (Criminal Minds, NCIS, Hawaii Five-O) seem to have these days. The main dude character is dull, and his actor isn't very good. Melinda May isn't doing anything. Sky(e?) is as good as it gets, and even she's too much on the cutesy side.

I do like the tone, the setting, the special effects, the action scenes, most of the dialogue, how it fits in with the Avengers world, and even the simplistic plots. They all more or less work for me. It's been picked up for a full 22; I predict major cameos and the giving-away of Coulson's 'secret' for November sweeps.

The main (non-Coulson) guy is unbearable. The writing and the acting are terrible.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-11-2013, 08:10 PM

The quality of this program is dropping from week to week. Even though ABC picked up the option for a full season, the numbers will drop if they don't increase the quality of the writing.

**Buehler445** · 10-11-2013, 09:10 PM

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The quality of this program is dropping from week to week. Even though ABC picked up the option for a full season, the numbers will drop if they don't increase the quality of the writing.

I haven't seen much of a dropoff. I think the first episode is so far the weakest.

And hoooooooly shit Sky is hot. Her running around in the pink dress all wet. Jesus. I need a minute.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-11-2013, 09:43 PM

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I haven't seen much of a dropoff. I think the first episode is so far the weakest.

And hoooooooly shit Sky is hot. Her running around in the pink dress all wet. Jesus. I need a minute.

Really? I thought the episode based in Peru was much better and more exciting.

The VFX in this week's episode where laughable, IMO, as was the acting.

It's so rote.

**CrazyPhuD** · 10-11-2013, 10:04 PM

This show will make through season 1. They'll add Summer Glau to the cast in Season 2 and then the show is doomed. The only exception would be if she was Chloe Bennet's love interest.

keg in kc · 10-11-2013, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD

This show will make through season 1. They'll add Summer Glau to the cast in Season 2 and then the show is doomed. The only exception would be if she was Chloe Bennet's love interest.

She's show-killing Arrow now.

**CrazyPhuD** · 10-11-2013, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

She's show-killing Arrow now.

that just means she'll be free to kill season 2 when it starts filming!

keg in kc · 10-11-2013, 10:52 PM

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that just means she'll be free to kill season 2 when it starts filming!

I'm sure she can find time to kill a midseason show and maybe a summer show on USA in between.

**007** · 10-12-2013, 12:01 AM

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She's show-killing Arrow now.

Yeah, I groaned when I saw her show up in the first ep.

10-10-2013, 04:11 PM	#1
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Aries Walker Back again, again. Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: York, PA Casino cash: $9583357	My problem with this show is that most of the characters aren't very interesting. Coulson was a great supporting character in the movies, but they're overdoing him here - granted, they've toned it back a little since the first episode, where every line he had was a smartass quip, but he's coming across as really contrived. Fitz and Simmons are glorified props, the same quirky, childish, idiosyncratic tech support/comic relief characters that so many police procedurals (Criminal Minds, NCIS, Hawaii Five-O) seem to have these days. The main dude character is dull, and his actor isn't very good. Melinda May isn't doing anything. Sky(e?) is as good as it gets, and even she's too much on the cutesy side. I do like the tone, the setting, the special effects, the action scenes, most of the dialogue, how it fits in with the Avengers world, and even the simplistic plots. They all more or less work for me. It's been picked up for a full 22; I predict major cameos and the giving-away of Coulson's 'secret' for November sweeps.
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10-11-2013, 10:04 PM	#11
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