Go to hell whitlock.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by LiveSteam

If civil war was ever was to break out inside our boarders our military would be fighting instantly,internally & among them selves.

Give it up, dude. You see the "IL" in the name?

[LiveSteam]

Originally Posted by frazod

Give it up, dude. You see the "IL" in the name?

I hear ya. its a waist of time with these types. If it ever happens they will be the first casualties.

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by ILChief

If the US Army ever invades my neighborhood with tanks, I'm sure a bunch of 12 gauge shotguns will deter them.

Good thing that the Army is the only armed forced in the entire country.

[ghak99]

Originally Posted by ILChief

If the US Army ever invades my neighborhood with tanks, I'm sure a bunch of 12 gauge shotguns will deter them.

CP has it under control.

[LOCOChief]

Originally Posted by ILChief

If the US Army ever invades my neighborhood with tanks, I'm sure a bunch of 12 gauge shotguns will deter them.

I wouldn't be the US Army, it would be a UN "peacekeeping" force. But you could go ahead and hand them your lunch money and I'm sure everything would be fine.

[Munson]

Originally Posted by Dayze

don't forget, guns also protect you from your own government.

Governments would never hurt their own citizens!

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by Dayze

don't forget, guns also protect you from your own government.

That, in my mind, is the primary reason for widespread gun ownership. Making the US almost impossible to invade is secondary because of the oceans.

Revolution is unthinkable now since the military enjoys the admiration and pride of the people, we more or less agree that we aren't being run by tyrants, and the political process works.

No one knows what will happen 150 years from now.

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by alnorth

That, in my mind, is the primary reason for widespread gun ownership. Making the US almost impossible to invade is secondary because of the oceans.

Revolution is unthinkable now since the military enjoys the admiration and pride of the people, we more or less agree that we aren't being run by tyrants, and the political process works.

No one knows what will happen 150 years from now.

I forgot to mention the tertiary reason not to ban handguns, but this 3rd-most important reason is probably the main reason why handgun restrictions were reversed the last couple decades and why the NRA is so powerful today.

Collection and recreational use of handguns is extremely fun.

Simple as that, I sincerely believe its why the pro-gun folks are winning now. When someone sends a few rounds downrange, I believe at that point they will become far less likely to support a ban. Decades ago hardly anyone owned or fired a gun, and were terrified of violence. Handgun bans came close to passing nationally. Then, the NRA and handgun owners stopped apologizing for their hobby, started supporting competitions and encouraging people to give it a try, and thats really all they had to do. Handgun ownership exploded, and I do not at all think its because we've become a country filled with terrified homeowners wanting to defend themselves from the local thug. Not many of those in the midwest, anyway.

[JoeyChuckles]

I honestly doubt Chiefs Planet is going to be able to solve the gun debate in this thread.

I also honestly doubt that anyone that comes in here is going to have their opinion changed based on what they read here.

I lean strongly towards one of the sides in this debate, but it's not even worth arguing with the POTUS, let alone people on here.

[tk13]

Originally Posted by JoeyChuckles

I honestly doubt Chiefs Planet is going to be able to solve the gun debate in this thread.

I also honestly doubt that anyone that comes in here is going to have their opinion changed based on what they read here.

I lean strongly towards one of the sides in this debate, but it's not even worth arguing with the POTUS, let alone people on here.

Shows what you know. I was totally against any guns existing anywhere 5 minutes ago, but now I'm going to buy one to protect us from Canada. You can't trust a country whose main exports are cold air and Steve Nash.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by tk13

Shows what you know. I was totally against any guns existing anywhere 5 minutes ago, but now I'm going to buy one to protect us from Canada. You can't trust a country whose main exports are cold air and Steve Nash.

they don't concern themselves with Nuclear weapons, drones, tanks, F16's etc, Those other countries are scared of our shotguns and 357's,

[-King-]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

they don't concern themselves with Nuclear weapons, drones, tanks, F16's etc, Those other countries are scared of our shotguns and 357's,

Invading Country: So, we are able to beat their missiles, their AC130s, their fighter jets, their tanks and our Navy was able to beat their Aircraft carriers and warships but how do we get past those pesky handguns their citizens have? There's just no way!

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by -King-

Invading Country: So, we are able to beat their missiles, their AC130s, their fighter jets, their tanks and our Navy was able to beat their Aircraft carriers and warships but how do we get past those pesky handguns their citizens have? There's just no way!

You aren't going to win this one. There is not a military on the planet, short of using nukes, that can defeat a citizen army well over 100 million with small arms.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by tk13

Shows what you know. I was totally against any guns existing anywhere 5 minutes ago, but now I'm going to buy one to protect us from Canada. You can't trust a country whose main exports are cold air and Steve Nash.

[-King-]

When that Apache comes, I'm glad I got my handgun!