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how shady or legit is the NFL ?
http://spaces.covers.com/blog/Maximu...or-Profit.html
http://thefixisin.net/nfl.html I'm not betting my farm on how true this is but it makes a lot of sense to me. The NFL is an entertainment business and can bend a games outcome when they so choose. Quote:
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Ok Terrell Owens, welcome to the NFL. All the games are fixed, we're going to make you a star, but never tell anyone, ok!?
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Stupid question that you can't honestly answer yourself. Now answer mine.
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Ok Boomer Grigsby, you're only 1 game from receiving an NFL pension? Too bad! You still can't tell on us though or else!!!
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Terrell Owens and Chad Johnson are obviously the quiet type that would NEVER open their mouths for attention.....
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Jammarcus Russel is pretty broke these days. Im sure he would love to tell TMZ everything he knows......if he knew something.
Clearly the fix was in to ruin his career. Same with Ryan Leaf right? Yeah, i guess THOSE players wouldn't have a reason to tell on the NFL, would they?
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/Mara overseeing SB practices while Coughlin watches ocelot videos with Gilbride.
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Agreed, plenty of ex nfl broke dudes that would snitch in a heart beat.
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And again, what do the NFL owners stand to gain from catering to sports betters? Now compare what you THINK they have to gain to what they have to lose if the secret gets out. Especially since there are thousands of new potential whistle blowers brought in every year. Again, there is no incentive for the NFL to fix 16 games every sunday, for 17 Sundays.
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you don't know that if he misses that catch that they don't throw a flag and accomplish the movement up field needed anyway. its not that hard to accomplish all that. Also, the Pats defenders played patty cake with the Giants linemen forever on that play. The Refs Let Eli have all the time in the world |
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http://lockerroompicks.com/nfl-longs...ship-gambling/ Publicly, the NFL is among the staunchest opponents to legalized gambling in the United States. Heck, the league famously refused an advertisement from the Las Vegas Visitors and Convention Bureau for the Super Bowl, in an effort to appear like they are really anti-gaming. Former commissioner Paul Tagliabue and current commissioner Roger Goodell were instrumental in getting the anti gaming Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act attached to the Port Security Bill in October 2006. The NFL has taken this stance despite the fact that it’s enormously popularity is, in no small part, due to the prevalence of betting on games. The hypocrisy of the NFL in regards to betting is almost laughable. The facts, as you will see, clearly show that the league was founded by gamblers for gamblers. From the NFL’s first television appearance in 1939 through the current TV deals that pumps nearly six billions dollars per year into the league coffers, the NFL’s popularity rests upon the shoulders of those who wager on the outcome of the games. Here in the 21st century, the NFL is the most popular and profitable sport in the United States. NFL owners are among the richest men in the world. Lesser franchises like the Buffalo Bills are bought and sold for more than a billion dollars. However, the league’s humble origins were anything but the extravagant bonanza that is the NFL today. The NFL was founded in 1922 by changing its name from the ‘American Professional Football Association’, a short lived league that lasted only two years. The NFL was a Midwest oriented league, with teams in Akron, Canton, Dayton, Rochester, Buffalo, Detroit, Chicago, Cleveland and other smaller Midwest cities. Every year throughout the 1920’s — often in mid-season — franchises folded, and new clubs were added to the mix. In 1925, Tim Mara founded the New York Giants, the first east coast team, for the paltry fee of $500, having never actually witnessed an NFL game himself. Mara’s ownership of an NFL franchise was a secondary profession for him. He was first and foremost a well-connected trackside bookie, taking bets on horse racing from a coveted spot inside the clubhouse. Mara’s bookmaking prowess was well publicized in the New York newspapers, and he earned a small fortune during the roaring twenties, setting odds and taking large wagers from upper class bettors. But he saw the writing on the wall for trackside bookies, as police crackdowns and paramutual betting threatened the industry. His attempt to diversify his holdings was, and is, a common and sensible Wall Street strategy. Mara’s first major attempt at diversification hit the jackpot, and his descendants still own the franchise today. The league’s finances were still on shaky grounds when the depression hit. The NFL’s fee to form a franchise was only $2,500 when Art Rooney founded the Pittsburgh Pirates, who later were re-named the Steelers. Where did Rooney get the money? From gambling, of course! Rooney was an avid horse player, the most popular form of sports betting in the pre-pointspread era. His success at the track was legendary. In a single day at the famed Saratoga Racetrack, Rooney beat the bookies for $124,000, picking six winners on a seven race card. Back in Pittsburgh, Rooney was a bookie, running a ‘wire room’ that took bets from horse players from all over Western Pennsylvania. He parlayed that success into NFL ownership. Rooney’s descendants still own the Steelers today. Charles Bidwell was a racetrack owner in Chicago in the 1920’s. He had very close ties with Al Capone and the Chicago mafia, and was an avid bettor himself. Bidwell bought the Chicago Cardinals in 1932 for $2000. His son still owns the franchise, currently located in Arizona. Early Detroit Lions owner George Richards was also strongly linked to both the mafia and gambling interests. Even the commissioner of the league, Bert Bell, a former co-owner of the Steelers with Art Rooney, had significant gambling interests. Bell’s father was a prominent man in society, the attorney general of Pennsylvania. That connection certainly helped keep the heat off his own gambling interests and operations during his stint as a player and coach in the 1930’s, continuing through his ascension to NFL commissioner in 1946. The All-American Football League was founded in 1946 as a rival to the NFL. The new league’s most successful franchise was the Cleveland Browns. The Browns won all four league titles before their three most successful franchised were absorbed by the NFL in 1950. Cleveland’s first owner, Mickey McBride, was another known horse betting wire-room operator and gambler. These early owners all had one thing in common – a strong connection to the horse racing industry. The horse racing industry skyrocketed in popularity for one reason, and one reason only…gambling. But there was one leak in the horse racing industry. The so called blue laws prohibited race tracks (and many other businesses) from operating on Sunday. When the NFL was founded in the early 1920’s, games were scheduled haphazardly throughout the weekend, often competing with the racetracks on Friday and Saturday evenings. The owners soon realized that their core audience of bettors needed something to do after church on Sunday. Since NFL games on Sunday weren’t strictly prohibited by the blue laws, the league’s founders latched onto the idea of Sunday afternoon football games. By the 1930’s, largely due to Mara’s influence, NFL games kicked off at 1 PM on Sundays without competition from the racetrack. And that is why pro football is played on Sundays – for the gamblers, plain and simple. As the league was growing in popularity, a new form of betting was sweeping the nation. The origins of the pointspread remain unclear, but the concept was refined and popularized by Charles McNeil, a securities analyst in Chicago. American bookmakers had been wrestling with the problem of how to generate equal amounts of ‘action’ on games where one team was heavily favored over another. Bookies were exposed to major liability on games where bettors wagered on a winning underdog at attractive prices, and they were equally exposed when bettors wouldn’t touch the underdog at all, even if the payouts on the favorite were very low. Many bookies refused to take action on lopsided games, even though bettors wanted to wager on those contests. With the advent of the pointspread, bookies were able to attract bets on both sides of the vast majority of games. This led to numerous scandals in the late 1940’s and early 1950’s, with college basketball point shaving at the forefront of the problem. Big gamblers offered huge dollars to poor kids who often succumbed to the lure of easy money. But pro football was not immune from scandal. The 1946 NFL Championship Game was marred by a betting scandal. Self-described big bettor Alvin Paris attempted to bribe the New York Giants running backs Merle Hapes and Frank Filchock for $2,500 each to throw the game. Ironically, the Bears beat the Giants 24-14 without the need of bettor’s treachery. That certainly wasn’t the last time that bettors had influence on a championship game. Next week, I’ll write about the how the greatest game in NFL history — the nationally televised 1958 championship OT thriller between the Baltimore Colts and the New York Giants — was probably influenced by gambling.
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You think Ryan Leaf likes to run around with the label of being the biggest bust in NFL history? Yeah ****ing right. If there was any truth to it, these "bust" players would be screaming at the top of their lungs in order to save face. It's not like they have any incentive to keep quiet. Which of course is a topic that none of these theorists want to tackle.
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