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Old 02-23-2013, 09:52 PM  
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NFL Combine QB workout thread

Coverage starts at 8 AM Sunday on NFL Network. No idea when QBs will actually throw, but GoWalrus has promised to get clips of Geno's workout. No idea if he'll get any of the others.

Here is what we can expect the throwing drills to look like:

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Through the combine, they get a good idea about whether the player name is likely to light up the football scoreboards in the future.

They want to see the quarterback’s 3-step drop, 5-step drop, 7-step drop and within those drops the reps want to see the QB go through the route tree. What’s the route tree? The QB is asked to run a slant, an out, a throw in, a corner route (7 route) and the deep route (the go).

Many quarterbacks worry that as they don’t personally know the receiver and have never played with them, they might throw over or under them giving the reps an inaccurate estimate of their skill. However, the reps do not care whether the receiver catches the pass or not. All they are interested in is seeing the quarterback’s footwork while they are running the 3-step drop, the 5-step drop and the 7-step drop.

In the 3-step drop they want to see how the quarterback handles and positions the ball: under-center. This is because most quarterbacks in college have never been under-center; they’re usually all back in the spread. They see and study the footwork, how the QB plants himself and drives the throw.

In the 5-step drop (intermediate route), the QB has to take 3 big steps and 2 small steps, get the ball and throw it out right away. Therefore, their footwork is essential.
In the 7-step drop (a deeper throw) the footwork, again, is very critical. Bill Walsh said that he could tell by looking at the quarterback’s feet (footwork) whether he had a good or a bad game. The second thing they notice is the carriage i.e. how the quarterback carries the football. Is it up towards the shoulder or is it below towards the center of the chest and stomach. However, ever since Philip Rivers no one can positively judge the quarterback through the position of his carriage.

Finally, they look into the arm strength. This is why the quarterbacks are asked to throw the 7 route and the deep route. The reps watch the quarterbacks drop back 5 to 7 yards and throw the football. They want to see how quickly and accurately it comes out of the quarterback’s hands.
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:03 AM   #1186
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ESPN is playing audio from Bill Polian basically telling everybody that they should ignore Honey Badger's workouts.

"You gotta look at the tape."

These guys are hilarious.
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:05 AM   #1187
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:06 AM   #1188
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:08 AM   #1189
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:14 AM   #1190
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:18 AM   #1191
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The thing I hate about 95% of these "experts" is that they go into this thing just as biased, if not more, than we are.

It's like getting Karl Rove or Debbie Wasserman-Schultz's take on a presidential debate.

When a measurable doesn't fit the narrative, the excuses abound.

Take Gil Brandt and Manti Te'o. Watching his tweets yesterday were comical if he wasn't paid to provide information.

Two weeks ago he tweeted out that anyone who flamed Te'o on his feed would be blocked.

Then he ran a 4.81 40.

"Hand-timed Manti Te'o's second 40 at 4.70, but he looked more relaxed running. Honestly surprised not to see a bigger time jump. Better run."

"Back to linebacker 40s: Remember, LB isn't all about speed. It's more about play recognition, competitiveness. Ray Lewis is a prime example."

"Just hand-timed Manti Te'o at 4.71 in 40. Had hoped to see 4.65 from him. Probably tight, under pressure. All eyes on him at #NFLCombine."


The same can be said for those guys who don't like someone...like Matt Miller and Geno.

"Oh he had a good time, but he LOOKED slow to me."

It's gotten past ridiculous.
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:19 AM   #1192
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:21 AM   #1193
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:21 AM   #1194
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:22 AM   #1195
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The thing I hate about 95% of these "experts" is that they go into this thing just as biased, if not more, than we are.

It's like getting Karl Rove or Debbie Wasserman-Schultz's take on a presidential debate.

When a measurable doesn't fit the narrative, the excuses abound.

Take Gil Brandt and Manti Te'o. Watching his tweets yesterday were comical if he wasn't paid to provide information.

Two weeks ago he tweeted out that anyone who flamed Te'o on his feed would be blocked.

Then he ran a 4.81 40.

"Hand-timed Manti Te'o's second 40 at 4.70, but he looked more relaxed running. Honestly surprised not to see a bigger time jump. Better run."

"Back to linebacker 40s: Remember, LB isn't all about speed. It's more about play recognition, competitiveness. Ray Lewis is a prime example."

"Just hand-timed Manti Te'o at 4.71 in 40. Had hoped to see 4.65 from him. Probably tight, under pressure. All eyes on him at #NFLCombine."


The same can be said for those guys who don't like someone...like Matt Miller and Geno.

"Oh he had a good time, but he LOOKED slow to me."

It's gotten past ridiculous.
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:59 AM   #1196
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You guys need to go to the Geno thread and listen to Miller talk about Geno in that interview. It's interesting.
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Old 02-26-2013, 12:08 PM   #1197
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You guys need to go to the Geno thread and listen to Miller talk about Geno in that interview. It's interesting.
Give me the cliff notes. Don't care to waste my time watching it.
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Old 02-26-2013, 12:12 PM   #1198
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Give me the cliff notes. Don't care to waste my time watching it.
It's just audio, but he says something along the lines of "geno compares more to Aaron Rodgers than Kapernick" when talking about running QB's. He now has him mocked to the Raiders at 3, I don't remember, some other BS about how he's risen based on a good combine.

It's at the 45 minute mark in the interview with Albert at the end.
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