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Old 03-12-2019, 10:23 PM  
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Le'Veon Bell to the New York Jets!




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Old 03-13-2019, 09:00 AM   #106
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He still can move. Rewatch the game at Arrowhead, he looked explosive when he was in.
He can move, but not like Damien Williams

Damien got speed and cutting that Hunt doesn’t have (Hunt still better all around but Williams is not a JAG or even close to it)
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Old 03-13-2019, 09:05 AM   #107
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I'd just like to chime in and say 2 things.

1. F the Steelers.

2. The Jets are going to regret putting their sig on this contract with Bell. I'm thrilled he's not a Chief.
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Old 03-13-2019, 09:11 AM   #108
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I'd just like to chime in and say 2 things.

1. F the Steelers.

2. The Jets are going to regret putting their sig on this contract with Bell. I'm thrilled he's not a Chief.
The Jets are gonna regret being the Jets
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Old 03-13-2019, 09:13 AM   #109
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The most satisfaction I'll get from this signing is watching Bell get his brains beat in on a losing team.
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Old 03-13-2019, 09:19 AM   #110
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This looks alot like Shady McCoy to the Bills to me. When there are no other serious threats on a team....
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Old 03-13-2019, 09:24 AM   #111
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This looks alot like Shady McCoy to the Bills to me. When there are no other serious threats on a team....
I didn’t like this. They have a shit offensive line. They need a center and a pass rusher.
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Old 03-13-2019, 11:10 AM   #112
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You're suggesting a guy that has a pretty extensive list of injuries already, and nearly shredded his knee, should have played on a second consecutive one year deal. I have no idea what to tell you, if you insist that's a good idea m8

There is no tap out, but there's no reason to keep arguing with someone that has no clue what actual guaranteed money holds in value.

Go tell your stupid ****ing idea to Alex Smith, who has all of his salary protected right now, thanks to his guaranteed money. Even though he'll probably never play a single snap again. Football is a violent contact sport and that shit happens frequently.


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Old 03-13-2019, 11:13 AM   #113
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The franchise tag was $14.5M. The Steelers offer was $10M guaranteed.

Bell got $35M guaranteed from the Jets.

He won. Plain and simple. He won BIG.
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Just going to leave this here.

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Old 03-13-2019, 11:53 AM   #115
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Worse deal? Because 33 million guaranteed is a lot more than 10 million guaranteed.


edit: educate yourselves. The Steelers offered him 10m guaranteed, LESS THAN THE FRANCHISE TAG.

It was a shit offer.

He should have taken the franchise tag in my opinion but their "rolling guarantees" make every player hate the Steelers. They're crap, my friends.


edit: but the music indeed sucks.
But there's also "guarantee if he doesn't get cut after 1 year" which was something like $35M and what 95%+ chance of happening? Also if he has some gruesome Alex Smith injury it's not even certain the Steelers would immediately cut him. They haven't cut Shazier. Or that the contract didn't come with some kind of injury protection (which most contracts seem to these days). As people have mentioned, seems like you might be able to insure against that.

I feel like the only way the Steelers release him after year 1, and that he doesn't have some kind of injury payday, is if he just totally sucks. It seems weird to me to say "Well yeah, but Bell is smart because he knows he might suck and get released" - which if true seems like a sub-optimal attitude that you'd want a star player to have.
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I didn’t like this. They have a shit offensive line. They need a center and a pass rusher.

Didn't like this in what sense? For the Jets? For Bell?

I don't think it's that bad a move. Having someone to help take attention away from Darnold isn't bad.

They lack quality talent like everywhere though. Jets drafts over the past, whatever, six or so years haven't been good enough, plain and simple, and their free agency efforts have not been good enough to compensate for it. Not even close.
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Meanwhile, the JEts had two pro bowls on special teams -- kicker and return man. The kicker they let walk (just signed with SEattle) and now news has just come out that their returner is gone too.

That makes not much sense to me. Special teams is a good way to start building a competitive team out of the ashes.
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Old 03-13-2019, 01:13 PM   #118
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I'm with Bell on holding out last year. Playing one year under the franchise tag is one thing, but as a running back, being franchised a second time is another.

Pitt wasn't willing to actually guarantee him a long term deal.

I don't blame Pitt for that, but there are obviously teams out there (or at least one) that was willing to give him a guaranteed multi-year deal.

It maybe that the odds say he would on average have come out financially ahead by playing a second year under the tag. But I don't blame him for not wanting to play a second franchise tag when Pitt was clearly intending to run him into the ground and then get rid of him.

He gave a FU to Pitt and still got a huge contract. Good for him.
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Didn't like this in what sense? For the Jets? For Bell?

I don't think it's that bad a move. Having someone to help take attention away from Darnold isn't bad.

They lack quality talent like everywhere though. Jets drafts over the past, whatever, six or so years haven't been good enough, plain and simple, and their free agency efforts have not been good enough to compensate for it. Not even close.
For the Jets. They need lineman. When you watch Bell run he does a lot of hesitation at the LOS. That’s ok with the Steelers OL, not so for the Jets OL.

The whole structure with the Jets is soooo ****ed up. The coach and gm don’t have meetings together. They meet separately with the owner lol what successful franchise is run like that? None. That’s why a lot of players and coaches refuse to come to the Jets. Chris Johnson was the guy that hired Gase, not mcaggnan. They’re a ****ing joke. They stepped in shit with Darnold though. He’s gonna be good.
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Bell is an idiot. He would have gotten more money signing with the Steelers last year.
People dont seem to grasp the concept of guaranteed money...that's the only amount of a contract a team is obligated to pay you.

Steelers leaked the $70 million figure to the press...to try to pressure Bell to sign. It only had $10 million guaranteed...it was a total dick move by the Steelers.

They were planning on running him into the ground then releasing him this year. If he were seriously injured...he would be screwed.

He sat out, stayed healthy and got $30+ million GUARANTEED. $30 million > $10 million.

Bell did what he had to do...and it payed off.
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