That was our best shot and we missed it

[staylor26]

I know it sounds irrational because it was essentially just year 1 for Mahomes, but this was probably our best ****ing shot and we failed (because of a ****ing offsides penalty). We have two more years of Mahomes on his rookie deal (he’ll get paid before year 5), and I just feel like it’s unlikely that we get the 1st seed with a relatively injury free season again before it’s time to pay up.

[kcpasco]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

While largely true, nothing gives you a better chance on the road in playoff games than a playmaking QB. See Rodgers 2010.

That’s true but that GB defense got hot and dominated that postseason. The Packers have basically pissed away Rodgers career ever since.

[LoneWolf]

Originally Posted by staylor26

You’re right I guess it’s the “because Chiefs” feeling but I just know that if we somehow get signicalty better defensively we’ll lose a key piece on offense.

How can you not feel this way after we’ve been waiting so long for a QB/offense and when we finally have one our defense goes to shit?

I can feel this way because this isn’t 2003. This offense is young and Mahomes is only going to get better. Just think if this offense would draft or sign another receiving threat at TE or if replacing Conley with Robinson proves to be beneficial (Robinson and Mahomes seem to have some kind of chemistry that didn’t exist between Mahomes and Conley.)

The future is bright, staylor. Drink it in!!

[Prison Bitch]

Marino 84 to me. Record year, never came close to replicating it. His young WR aged way quicker than expected, the run game was a revolving door or FAs and burnouts, and the defense was shit for another decade. Led by a tired old coach too stubborn to fire his dCord (Okivadotti).


The Fish missed the playoffs 6 straight years with Marino in his prime. Never made it back to Supe after 84. . At least they got there.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

****ed by Veach.

When he ****s up the draft again, the Chiefs will once again push the Veach-Mahomes propaganda piece. The guy was paid/assigned to keep tabs on Mahomes and somehow that makes him a great GM

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by Rudy tossed tigger's salad

****ed by Veach.

When he ****s up the draft again, the Chiefs will once again push the Veach-Mahomes propaganda piece. The guy was paid/assigned to keep tabs on Mahomes and somehow that makes him a great GM

So ridiculous.

Veach finally provided some depth on the offensive line that was huge for this team, and he added much better depth on defense. The guy had a shit cap situation to work with last year and hardly any good draft picks to use. If you’re judging Speaks’ career already, then I hope you never said anything good about Ford this year because he looked even worse his rookie season.

And for all the hate he gets over Watkins’ deal, we aren’t in that game Sunday night without him.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Rudy tossed tigger's salad

****ed by Veach.

When he ****s up the draft again, the Chiefs will once again push the Veach-Mahomes propaganda piece. The guy was paid/assigned to keep tabs on Mahomes and somehow that makes him a great GM

Nnadi was an excellent pick, contributed greatly this year, and will be a beast for us for years.

O'daniel and Watts were promising guys who battled injuries. O'daniel is that perfect coverage LB that ever D needs and would have been great to have 100% healthy vs a team like the Pats.

Watts was also coming along until he got injured. At the time I didn't like his pick or O'daniel but they both look like promising players.

Now, our 1st round pick didn't do much (and that's a bad habit this team needs to break) but the 3 named above were solid picks.

And Veach was able to find cheap players that were solid contributors as well. Veach (so far) has done an excellent job.

[Amnorix]

Just no. Mahomes may or may not post 50 TDs again, but he will get better at reading defenses, and your defense will likely revert to the mean and be better next year. Plus Brady and the Patriots will EVENTUALLY fade out, or die, or something -- and there's no one else in the AFC looking more primed to be a consistent contender than the Chiefs.

You have a good 10+ years of elite football to look forward to. That doesn't mean you go to the SB or win it every year. JFC, look at Peyton, Brees, Rodgers and literally every other QB not named Brady. You just don't get to go to the big show every time (or 50% of the time, if you're Brady, which is utterly mind-boggling).

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

Just no. Mahomes may or may not post 50 TDs again, but he will get better at reading defenses, and your defense will likely revert to the mean and be better next year. Plus Brady and the Patriots will EVENTUALLY fade out, or die, or something -- and there's no one else in the AFC looking more primed to be a consistent contender than the Chiefs.

You have a good 10+ years of elite football to look forward to. That doesn't mean you go to the SB or win it every year. JFC, look at Peyton, Brees, Rodgers and literally every other QB not named Brady. You just don't get to go to the big show every time (or 50% of the time, if you're Brady, which is utterly mind-boggling).

This.

2 years from now there will be no Brady, no Big Ben, no Rivers. There will be Luck and Mahomes taking turns hosting the AFCC game...

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by Rausch

Nnadi was an excellent pick, contributed greatly this year, and will be a beast for us for years.

O'daniel and Watts were promising guys who battled injuries. O'daniel is that perfect coverage LB that ever D needs and would have been great to have 100% healthy vs a team like the Pats.

Watts was also coming along until he got injured. At the time I didn't like his pick or O'daniel but they both look like promising players.

Now, our 1st round pick didn't do much (and that's a bad habit this team needs to break) but the 3 named above were solid picks.

And Veach was able to find cheap players that were solid contributors as well. Veach (so far) has done an excellent job.

We didn't have a 1st round pick. Actually, I suppose we did, as that pick went in the Mahomes deal. I think that turned out pretty good.

[kcpasco]

It helps that the AFC East is a complete dumpster fire outside of NE. Patriots have no ****ing competition in that division. The Chargers and Broncos are competive most of the time. The only shit team in the West is the Faid year after year.

FU Jets Bills and Fins.

[O.city]

It definitely sucks and was a real gut punch.

But listening to Middlekauf this morning on my way in, he brought up a good point that we do need to remember somewhat. First off, Mahomes showed that he has the mentality. The arm strength the tools all that shit is awesome, but he showed that he's just a ****ing gamer Sunday night. Nothing went right in the first half and they came out and put up 31 in the second half.

Secondly, the defense definitely sucked. But we were also a man short, because of the Mahomes trade up. That's a pretty big deal to be without a first rounder. Sure he may not be an elite player, but just another first round talent on the D maybe makes one or two plays.

Had this been a year where they got there because the defense played out their ass all year and we had a middling qb and offense i'd probably agree that you have to hit these shots.

But it was with a 2nd year MVP QB. Some may say he'll never repeat this year again, maybe, maybe not. But he's going to be a badass and that gives you a shot.

[Randallflagg]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I know it sounds irrational because it was essentially just year 1 for Mahomes, but this was probably our best ****ing shot and we failed (because of a ****ing offsides penalty). We have two more years of Mahomes on his rookie deal (he’ll get paid before year 5), and I just feel like it’s unlikely that we get the 1st seed with a relatively injury free season again before it’s time to pay up.

Oh C'mon on now....... When I was in the Army, I used to go to the pistol range with a friend once or twice a month. Each time, my friend would load his pistol, aim downrange and miss the target with his first shot by a mile.

I asked him one day "Why the hell do you do that!?"....his answer? Well, got that first one out of the way - let's get to shooting.

That loss kicked me in the nuts too.....not to worry, This team (Chiefs) are just getting started.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

We didn't have a 1st round pick. Actually, I suppose we did, as that pick went in the Mahomes deal. I think that turned out pretty good.

He was our first pick so I guess that's why I said that.

That said our draft was not bad. It wasn't horrible like I felt on draft day and I still believe we could have done better with what we had but it wasn't a terrible draft...

[Chris Meck]

I'd say there's about an 80% chance the Chiefs are the #1 offense in the NFL next year. 10 starters under contract, Mahomes with a year under his belt.

I'd say there's a better than 50% chance the defense is improved. It depends on who gets hired as DC, and the draft, and FA. I doubt very seriously that anybody at Arrowhead Drive wants to repeat that performance. We'll see.

I'd say there's 100% chance we're in the play-offs as long as Mahomes is under center.

This is only the beginning, guys. Chill the **** out.

[Bugeater]

Could very well be true, especially if there aren't any changes to the defensive staff. We have a coach who doesn't learn from his mistakes, can't manage a clock, and lets his players' spirits decide when to come in and out of games. You also never know about injuries, what other AFC teams may improve in the coming years or when Belichek/Brady will go away. All that is why you gotta cash in on opportunities like this when they present themselves.