Does this team have an internal QB controversy?

[Coogs]

This team has went south since the Steelers came to town. The tape showed Smith missing 4 to 5 TD opportunities. There have been other missed chances since. You know the players see the tape.

Meanwhile, we are starting to hear Mahomes is killing it in practice. From the players.

Coaches aren't going to say it publicly, but they don't have to. Players know.

Herd on Sunday Night Football that the Chiefs are playing with no passion. Both before the game and at halftime.

I'm guessing the players know it's time to play the guy that gives the team the best chance.

[Boon]

Start PMIII. What do you have to lose

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

There is no internal QB controversy.

When Mahomes was drafted every single scout, talking head, etc., said he was extremely raw and would need AT LEAST one year on the bench.

Reid immediately declared he wouldn't play the kid this year. Once camp rolled around Smith took the snaps with the ones. There was never an open competition.

People are trying to make a big deal out of the fact that he runs the scout team. So what. You don't read defenses, call plays, make adjustments at the line, etc.

Plus, the team is still in first place. There is no way in hell Andy Reid (or 99% of head coaches for that matter) is going to put in a raw rookie QB because the focus of attention would by on Andy Reid.

Devil's Advocate:

Nearly every reputable scout/talking head also said that Mahomes was a better prospect than Deshaun Watson.

That kid only lit it up playing with less talent than Mahomes would be surrounded by here.

He's not going to play this year because a.) Andy is a stubborn **** and b.) Andy is a stubborn ****.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Devil's Advocate:



Nearly every reputable scout/talking head also said that Mahomes was a better prospect than Deshaun Watson.



That kid only lit it up playing with less talent than Mahomes would be surrounded by here.



He's not going to play this year because a.) Andy is a stubborn **** and b.) Andy is a stubborn ****.

#becausechiefs #fatandy

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Kinda over the whole 'He's not ready' talk.... he's had 11 weeks of regular season football to sit. The extra 6 isn't likely going to make a huge difference at this juncture.

Carson Wentz wasn't ready.
Russell Wilson wasn't ready.
Deshaun Watson wasn't ready.
Derek Carr wasn't ready.

This list could go on and on. Point being, I don't think anyone is 'ready' for their first start. But, Mahomes has been afforded more developmental time than most already and he has a supporting cast that can really help as he eases into gaining more experience.

It's time.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by dls6501

How is the OLine in shambles? They gave up 1 sack yesterday (which many feel wasnt their fault at all), and 2 total hurries.

That sounds to me like they did a fantastic job, not that they are "in shambles."

They're usually solid in pass pro, but are Charmin soft run blockers

'Shambles' is going too far, but they are badly lacking in one key area, and its having an effect on the entire offense

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Kinda over the whole 'He's not ready' talk.... he's had 11 weeks of regular season football to sit. The extra 6 isn't likely going to make a huge difference at this juncture.

Carson Wentz wasn't ready.
Russell Wilson wasn't ready.
Deshaun Watson wasn't ready.
Derek Carr wasn't ready.

This list could go on and on. Point being, I don't think anyone is 'ready' for their first start. But, Mahomes has been afforded more developmental time than most already and he has a supporting cast that can really help as he eases into gaining more experience.

It's time.

Yeah, it's not like Mahomes is going to pull a Peterman.

And honestly, even if he did, IDGAF.

Yesterday was the first time in my fandom that I actually texted friends and said that I hope we lose.

They ****ing deserved it.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

They're usually solid in pass pro, but are Charmin soft run blockers

'Shambles' is going too far, but they are badly lacking in one key area, and its having an effect on the entire offense

Half of our run game problems are BECAUSE of Alex Smith. Defenses don't respect him. Run cover 2 and load the box. That's how you stop our offense.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by dls6501

How is the OLine in shambles? They gave up 1 sack yesterday (which many feel wasnt their fault at all), and 2 total hurries.

That sounds to me like they did a fantastic job, not that they are "in shambles."

The OL is just ****ing fine.

The QB continues to get happy feet, look at the rush and run himself right into sacks.

Anyone catch the WASH/NO game yesterday?

Holy **** - Cousins stepped up into some ****ing bring the farm blitzes and delivered some strikes as he was getting crushed.

You don't see that from Alex. He's bailing at the first sign of pressure.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Yeah, it's not like Mahomes is going to pull a Peterman.

And honestly, even if he did, IDGAF.

Yesterday was the first time in my fandom that I actually texted friends and said that I hope we lose.

They ****ing deserved it.

I hope we lose every game that Reid continues to trot out Smith as a starting QB. C.J. Beathard played better than Smith against that Giants team.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

I hope we lose every game that Reid continues to trot out Smith as a starting QB. C.J. Beathard played better than Smith against that Giants team.

CJ Beathard put up THIRTY ONE POINTS against the defense while surrounded by USFL players.

[dls6501]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

They're usually solid in pass pro, but are Charmin soft run blockers

'Shambles' is going too far, but they are badly lacking in one key area, and its having an effect on the entire offense

Aside from the Broncos and Steelers games, that Charmin soft run blocking has done just fine.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Half of our run game problems are BECAUSE of Alex Smith. Defenses don't respect him. Run cover 2 and load the box. That's how you stop our offense.

Originally Posted by dls6501

Aside from the Broncos and Steelers games, that Charmin soft run blocking has done just fine.

I'll split the difference with you here, because Pesty has a valid point

But 3.7 ypc and 4.1 ypc vs Houston, Dallas and NY respectively is no great shakes, and I wouldnt put those numbers on Hunt... also don't forget our short yardage and goal line woes

The run blocking, while not our biggest problem... sure isn't helping, either

[BossChief]

The optimum situation would be Alex returning to the form of the first month of the season and keeps Mahomes off the field (and not giving DCs film on him going into 2018 that they can spend time analyzing) and we can get something for Alex after the year is up.

If Alex continues to shit the bed the next couple games, Andy would be wise to start giving Pat some opportunities with the 1s in practice and give Pat the last 2-3 games and the playoffs to get him a taste of starting both regular and postseason games.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Devil's Advocate:

Nearly every reputable scout/talking head also said that Mahomes was a better prospect than Deshaun Watson.

That kid only lit it up playing with less talent than Mahomes would be surrounded by here.

He's not going to play this year because a.) Andy is a stubborn **** and b.) Andy is a stubborn ****.

Mahomes was arguably the better prospect because he has a much higher ceiling - but also a lower floor.

I wanted Mahomes to get the #1 snaps from the start. I wanted the Chiefs to focus on him once he was drafted. Unfortunately Andy, and most of the posters who are currently freaking out, wanted him to sit a year or two. He didn't get the snaps and is probably not prepared.

[dls6501]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

I'll split the difference with you here, because Pesty has a valid point

But 3.7 ypc and 4.1 ypc vs Houston, Dallas and NY respectively is no great shakes, and I wouldnt put those numbers on Hunt... also don't forget our short yardage and goal line woes

The run blocking, while not our biggest problem... sure isn't helping, either

I hear you. 4.1 YPC is certainly nothing to write home about. But when you are averaging 3.7-4.1 YPC, on average you are getting first downs every 3 plays. That is definitely fine enough for a functional offense.