Who do Chiefs pick at 18? Who do you pick at 18?

[Meatloaf]

Ok, folks, we're just under a month to go before the draft, and I thought it might be interesting to see who some of the CP Heavyweights think the Chiefs will draft at #18. For extra credit, please note who you'd select at #18.

Of course, we don't know who might be available at that slot, but I think most probably have a decent idea of who might be available. Anyway, this is your chance to go "on record" as per the 2015 draft.

Note that I stuck this in The Lounge as there doesn't seem to be too much other football stuff going right now. I would ask the mods to please move it if/as needed.

I'll start:

Chiefs: DT Malcom Brown
Meatloaf: WR Jaelen Strong

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

But by the time these newly drafted OL are hitting their prime, hopefully Alex is gone.

Geez, I HOPE it doesn't take them another 6 years before they pay off.

[Meatloaf]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Stephenson's combine numbers were one of the best, if not the best, I've ever seen from an offensive lineman. 4.94 40. 35.5" vertical at 6'6", 312 lb. Insane. He has good feet and comes up and out from his stance extremely fast.

The one thing that was a legitimate criticism was his lack of functional playing strength. He was not strong like bull. It's obvious why he dipped into the PED's which led to his suspension. If he can get to the point where he's weight trained himself into his natural athleticism, I think he can be one of the better tackles in the league.

If not...eh.

Allen was primarily viewed as a career backup OL guy at four positions. Valuable to a team, but I've never seen him as a starter in the league. He doesn't have the athleticism to be a edge protector or the strength to function effectively in the box. However, he can play either guard or tackle position and gives the team a security blanket for the entire line.

Personally, I could see them going offensive tackle in the first and then an interior guy in the third.

If La'el Collins is there, it's not a bad pick, though I doubt he's going to be available.

As I stated in Draft Planet, I think that Oregon's Jake Fisher is one of the most viable options for the Chiefs in the first round. He fit's Dorsey's profile to a "T" and is a nasty ****er on the field.

Don't be too surprised if his name is read on Draft day when the Chiefs pick.

If that doesn't jibe with you, you better start hoping to hell that this team gets Stephenson the Balco vitamin regime or gets Derek Sherrod's head back into football. Otherwise, there is a definite possibility of having Fisher bookends come opening game 2015.

Sac, back in the 2012 draft Our Lads had Allen rated as the 3rd best guard. They had Stephenson as the 15th rated Tackle. Kiper had Allen as the 6th rated tackle and Stephenson as the 14th rated tackle. So, (not that it means much now), Allen was generally higher rated than Stephenson by both Our Lads and Kiper. Methinks people are selling Allen a bit short.

Also, I heard through buddy of buddy of buddy (yeah, I know, not exactly firsthand), that when Stephenson got nailed with the suspension last year, he kind of turned "internal" and simply quit working out for those 4 weeks. Needless to say, the coaching staff was not enamored with the shape he was in upon his return. Anyway, the word now is that Stephenson redoubled his training efforts and is ready to go.

Not sure what to make of this, but since we're a little short of football stuffs, thought I'd toss it out there.

As per Jake Fisher, my sense is that the "knock" on him is that he (like Eric Fisher) needs to get stronger. If true, not sure he'd contribute much next year. Nonetheless, such a selection wouldn't surprise me at all.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Sac, how do you feel about DJ Humphries? If we pick OL at 18 I would want him.

He's sloppy. Or, moreso, he plays sloppy looking. His feet are nice, he positions himself well, but he seems to be all over when defending, especially on run blocking. On pass protection he keeps a good base under him and stays on his guy.

I'm not sure he plays strong. He gets after dudes, but he doesn't manhandle them when he locks onto them like Collins or Fisher does. He's a puncher and it looks like he tends to keep his hands really high on defenders. I don't know if that's a good thing, but it's worked for him so far on the college level.

He's got the tools. I'm surprised he doesn't look more tight technically after being in that program.

I think he's a left tackle only.

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Good organizations find fatties in the mid-late rounds and save their early picks for playmakers.

Give me some examples.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Meatloaf

Sac, back in the 2012 draft Our Lads had Allen rated as the 3rd best guard. They had Stephenson as the 15th rated Tackle. Kiper had Allen as the 6th rated tackle and Stephenson as the 14th rated tackle. So, (not that it means much now), Allen was generally higher rated than Stephenson by both Our Lads and Kiper. Methinks people are selling Allen a bit short.

Also, I heard through buddy of buddy of buddy (yeah, I know, not exactly firsthand), that when Stephenson got nailed with the suspension last year, he kind of turned "internal" and simply quit working out for those 4 weeks. Needless to say, the coaching staff was not enamored with the shape he was in upon his return. Anyway, the word now is that Stephenson redoubled his training efforts and is ready to go.

Not sure what to make of this, but since we're a little short of football stuffs, thought I'd toss it out there.

As per Jake Fisher, my sense is that the "knock" on him is that he (like Eric Fisher) needs to get stronger. If true, not sure he'd contribute much next year. Nonetheless, such a selection wouldn't surprise me at all.

Allen works hard, has a great attitude and knows the game. He's just "good" across the board versus having elite traits in certain areas. He's a very functional reserve, the #1 dude at four positions, on a decent team.

I agree with you on Fisher. He could stand to add some mass and strength, but he absolutely gets after dudes on the field. Mean as shit and aggressive. Maybe too much at times, but he also has a high level of athleticism, moves exceptionally well laterally and has great form on both pass and run protection. But it will probably take a year to get him to play at the NFL level in terms of strength and technique.

As I've stated, I think that there are two guys who are plug-and-play for this team on the offensive line in this draft - La'el Collins at RT and John Miller at RG. (I also like Miller as a potential Center, but he'd require time to get that position down.) Both are very fundamentally sound, play nasty and would work well in this system. Other than that, it's projects and potential.

[CoMoChief]

Erving or Laell Collins and Lockett in the 2nd

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Allen works hard, has a great attitude and knows the game. He's just "good" across the board versus having elite traits in certain areas. He's a very functional reserve, the #1 dude at four positions, on a decent team.

I agree with you on Fisher. He could stand to add some mass and strength, but he absolutely gets after dudes on the field. Mean as shit and aggressive. Maybe too much at times, but he also has a high level of athleticism, moves exceptionally well laterally and has great form on both pass and run protection. But it will probably take a year to get him to play at the NFL level in terms of strength and technique.

As I've stated, I think that there are two guys who are plug-and-play for this team on the offensive line in this draft - La'el Collins at RT and John Miller at RG. (I also like Miller as a potential Center, but he'd require time to get that position down.) Both are very fundamentally sound, play nasty and would work well in this system. Other than that, it's projects and potential.

I really want Miller in the 3rd. Put him at RG day one.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by splatbass

Give me some examples.

Packers.

Patriots (who have only spent their #1s on tackles, the way you should do it).

Ravens

Steelers

Bengals

Basically, a **** ton of teams not named the Cowboys, 49ers, or Seahawks.

The Broncos? What the **** do you call them?

Also, guess who's NOT in this class of teams? The Chiefs.

[TribalElder]

Getting Alex moar tight ends to check down to is the best plan

DGB would probably end up like Baldwin if we drafted him in the first round

[The Franchise]

From @RapSheet and me: Per the Leon County jail, FSU CB PJ Williams -- a prospective 1st-rounder -- was arrested for DUI at 3:08 AM today.

— Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) April 3, 2015

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[O.city]

Get him in the 4th round now.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by TribalElder

Getting Alex moar tight ends to check down to is the best plan

DGB would probably end up like Baldwin if we drafted him in the first round

So DGB would suck in san fran with the uber QB Kapernick too?

[TambaBerry]

Originally Posted by Dicky McElephant

From @RapSheet and me: Per the Leon County jail, FSU CB PJ Williams -- a prospective 1st-rounder -- was arrested for DUI at 3:08 AM today.

— Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) April 3, 2015

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

I'd still take him just a dui lol

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Dicky McElephant

From @RapSheet and me: Per the Leon County jail, FSU CB PJ Williams -- a prospective 1st-rounder -- was arrested for DUI at 3:08 AM today.

— Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) April 3, 2015

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

I love news like this bc we have a GM who will take advantage of that value if he falls.

[Chief Roundup]

The Chiefs are likely to draft Andrus Peat. They should draft a Malcolm Brown or Eddie Goldman.