Alex Smith or Jimmy Garoppolo?

[milkman]

If those are your only choices, would you rather stand pat with Smith or give up a high draft pick for Garoppolo?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

The franchise tag for a QB in 2017 is $21.5M.

I was referring to 2018.

For example, if the Chiefs traded for Garopollo and the Chiefs weren't convinced that he was "The Guy", they wouldn't need to extend him, they could what the Redskins did in 2016 and Franchise him, making 2018 a "prove it" year before extending him.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

Do you need help in what Daniel Synder ignored that Mike Shannahan tried to get Synder to see ? Because Shanny didn't want him and was totally an owner pick but many GMs make the same mistake knowingly that Synder did.

If the Redskins hadn't taken him at #2, another team would have taken him at #3.

The bottom line is that you're wrong: Griffin didn't "shoot up the charts" because of his Combine. NFL scouts were wowed by his athleticism, arm strength, decision making and personality long before The Combines.

If there was any QB that moved up the charts in 2012 it was Ryan Tannehill. One year as a starter, fantastic athleticism but very little QB experience.

That said, while RGIII and Andrew Luck have regressed the past few seasons, Tannehill and Cousins have grown each and every year to the point where they're both undoubtedly Franchise QB's.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I was referring to 2018.

For example, if the Chiefs traded for Garopollo and the Chiefs weren't convinced that he was "The Guy", they wouldn't need to extend him, they could what the Redskins did in 2016 and Franchise him, making 2018 a "prove it" year before extending him.

If you trade for a guy then you better ****ing know that he is worth an extension. If we are already talking about Garoppolo needing a prove it year then you don't trade a 1st and 4th for him.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

If you trade for a guy then you better ****ing know that he is worth an extension. If we are already talking about Garoppolo needing a prove it year then you don't trade a 1st and 4th for him.

Come on, man. No one knows for certain.

If it was that easy, teams like the Browns wouldn't have gone through first round QB's like Gatorade.

The Chiefs were right about Alex Smith in terms of being a winner, a leader and someone that could run Reid's offense.

If they trade for Garopollo, I'd have to give them the benefit of the doubt.

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by Meatloaf

Why would New England get rid of Garoppolo in the first place? It's not like Brady's a spring chicken. Wouldn't they be keeping Garoppolo if they felt he was "the answer" to Brady's eventual retirement?

I'm all for moving on from Alex, but not for Garoppolo. I'd much rather keep Alex and draft a guy....or two....or three until I found my man.

Just saw Bricks reply. Could've saved space by just saying "ditto".

Because they know what his real value is.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I'm not sure I can handle the team trading for another backup QB.

Jimmy Bono Grbac Cassel Smith can go get over paid elsewhere.

Step 1: trade Alex Smith to the Jets
Step 2: trade/cut Foles
Step 3: trade for Romo
Step 4: trade up in the first round of the draft for a QB
Step 5: bolster the defense with the remaining picks

you just made that sound so easy! lol

[okcchief]

Alex Smith will not take this team to the Superbowl so gamble on who you think is best.

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[Mr. Laz]

It would be much easier to change offensive coordinators and improve the offense that way.

It would give Dorsey much more time to find a QBoTF

Reid The OC is part of the problem.

Conservative + Conservative ≠ Super Bowl


Someone has to make things happen just not try to avoid mistakes.

As a whole, this team is probably more conservative that our Marty Shottenheimer teams.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

That said, while RGIII and Andrew Luck have regressed the past few seasons,

For different reasons mind you. Luck knew the pro game coming in and RGIII did not making it much more difficult for RGIII to make that transition to the next level once the Shannahan gimmickness was exposed. Luck regressed because of no o-line protecting him and very little running game putting him in many more difficult situations to make plays thus forcing the ball.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Tannehill and Cousins have grown each and every year to the point where they're both undoubtedly Franchise QB's.

Still not sold on Tanny or Cousins when the rubber meets the road(big games that need big playmaking against big teams). At this point, I don't see either one of these guys progressing past Alex Smith ability in overall QBing. Yes, their stats are better but QBing is more than just stats. Just saying.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

For different reasons mind you. Luck knew the pro game coming in and RGIII did not making it much more difficult for RGIII to make that transition to the next level once the Shannahan gimmickness was exposed. Luck regressed because of no o-line protecting him and very little running game putting him in many more difficult situations to make plays thus forcing the ball.

This is complete bullshit

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

Still not sold on Tanny or Cousins when the rubber meets the road(big games that need big playmaking against big teams). At this point, I don't see either one of these guys progressing past Alex Smith ability in overall QBing. Yes, their stats are better but QBing is more than just stats. Just saying.

If the baseline for a Chiefs QB is Tom Brady or Peyton Manning, Chiefs fans that believe that nonsense are ****ed forever.

[splatbass]

I know some of you are tired of Alex Smith and want a change, but it has to make sense and this doesn't.

Bill Belichick wouldn't be seeking a trade if Garoppolo was any good. He has a 40 year old QB that needs to be replaced in the next couple of years, do you really think if he had a franchise QB waiting in the wings he would trade him?

[C3HIEF3S]

The definition of insanity.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by splatbass

I know some of you are tired of Alex Smith and want a change, but it has to make sense and this doesn't.

Bill Belichick wouldn't be seeking a trade if Garoppolo was any good. He has a 40 year old QB that needs to be replaced in the next couple of years, do you really think if he had a franchise QB waiting in the wings he would trade him?

You guys act like BB trading any player means that player is done.

How did Collins do in Cleveland this year? How about Chandler Jones to Arizona?

You people need to do your research before making such claims.

[oldman]

I wouldn't trust BB any further than I could kick him and I need an ankle replacement. I'd rather roll with Smith/Foles/AnybodyNotNamedSmith rather than trade a 1st and 4th for a guy who, at best, would be a pig in a poke. Crap, Cassell went 11-5 with the Pats.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by oldman

I wouldn't trust BB any further than I could kick him and I need an ankle replacement. I'd rather roll with Smith/Foles/AnybodyNotNamedSmith rather than trade a 1st and 4th for a guy who, at best, would be a pig in a poke. Crap, Cassell went 11-5 with the Pats.

Yeah, because Chandler Jones only had 11 sacks this year after a 2nd round trade with the Cardinals and Jamie Collins did so poorly in Cleveland that he received a $50 million dollar deal with $26 million guaranteed.

This is a ridiculously dumb narrative.