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Old 06-26-2014, 07:17 AM   #1
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There's a huge difference between using a Native American name and using a racist Native American term...
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Old 06-26-2014, 07:46 AM   #2
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There's a huge difference between using a Native American name and using a racist Native American term...
But there is nothing racist about white people dressing up as Indians, or a football team players posing in ceremonial dress, the tomahawk chop or some dufus dressing up as an indian in the stands with arrows in him...

Yeah, I agree, I don't see anything racist about that either...

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Old 06-26-2014, 08:03 AM   #3
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But there is nothing racist about white people dressing up as Indians, or a football team players posing in ceremonial dress, the tomahawk chop or some dufus dressing up as an indian in the stands with arrows in him...

Yeah, I agree, I don't see anything racist about that either...

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Except.. there is no malicious intent behind it. All these teams are honoring the traditions and people behind the imagery they use.

Not to mention, racism, pseudo racism, implied racism is not illegal.

They can bitch all they want. The problem occurs when the government gets involved.

This whole movement is similar to the sharia law movement in the Europe. Next thing you know muslims will start suing newspapers for printing images of mohammed. Where does it end?
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Old 06-26-2014, 08:23 AM   #4
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Except.. there is no malicious intent behind it. All these teams are honoring the traditions and people behind the imagery they use.

Not to mention, racism, pseudo racism, implied racism is not illegal.

They can bitch all they want. The problem occurs when the government gets involved.

This whole movement is similar to the sharia law movement in the Europe. Next thing you know muslims will start suing newspapers for printing images of mohammed. Where does it end?
That's your opinion but what if its not the opinion of an Indian tribe?

Now what?

We can try and split hairs and twist it to make sense because its the franchise we root for. But someone could find the name and so called traditions of this franchise offensive.
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Old 06-26-2014, 08:40 AM   #5
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That's your opinion but what if its not the opinion of an Indian tribe?

Now what?

We can try and split hairs and twist it to make sense because its the franchise we root for. But someone could find the name and so called traditions of this franchise offensive.
Then they can go **** themselves. I find religion deeply offensive to common sense, but you don't see me asking the government to act on my behalf. Guess what, religious folks would tell me to go **** myself! And I'm fine with that, because I can understand that in America, just because something is offensive (in this case, I am in a much LARGER minority of atheists, as compared to a tiny tiny tiny minority of Indians) does not mean there is any legal basis to GET RID OF IT.

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Old 10-22-2014, 05:12 PM   #6
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Except.. there is no malicious intent behind it. All these teams are honoring the traditions and people behind the imagery they use.

Not to mention, racism, pseudo racism, implied racism is not illegal.

They can bitch all they want. The problem occurs when the government gets involved.

This whole movement is similar to the sharia law movement in the Europe. Next thing you know muslims will start suing newspapers for printing images of mohammed. Where does it end?
This. YOU DO NOT HAVE A RIGHT NOT TO BE OFFENDED. You are welcome to picket all you want. If you get enough people to stop going to the games and supporting the Redskins because they are offended with you - then the team will change it's name, because not doing so would be bad for business. You win.

If you make government get involved and force the team to change it's name, then America, and the freedom loving people in it, loses.
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Old 06-26-2014, 08:08 AM   #7
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But there is nothing racist about white people dressing up as Indians, or a football team players posing in ceremonial dress, the tomahawk chop or some dufus dressing up as an indian in the stands with arrows in him...

Yeah, I agree, I don't see anything racist about that either...

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Old 06-26-2014, 03:31 PM   #8
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What the **** is wrong with everyone? This whole thing is so outrageous. What's next, after Chiefs, Braves, Indians, Cowboys? Then what? Are we not allowed to dress up as Anything other than table lamps for Halloween because it could offend someone? This is such bullshit.

I bet you money, this lady sits around a disparages other races. She probably talks abut the dirty person of Hispanic heritages, the over privileged WASPS, the gang banging thugs and the flaming phaaaaggggooots as she sits and writes Congress her complaints about football teams and their "names". The loudest pieces of shit, are usually the most hypocritical.

**** her.

Oh and BTW, I'm pretty liberal. This isn't politics at its heart. It's ****ing stupid at its heart, or should I say at it's asshole.
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What the **** is wrong with everyone? This whole thing is so outrageous. What's next, after Chiefs, Braves, Indians, Cowboys? Then what? Are we not allowed to dress up as Anything other than table lamps for Halloween because it could offend someone? This is such bullshit.

I bet you money, this lady sits around a disparages other races. She probably talks abut the dirty person of Hispanic heritages, the over privileged WASPS, the gang banging thugs and the flaming phaaaaggggooots as she sits and writes Congress her complaints about football teams and their "names". The loudest pieces of shit, are usually the most hypocritical.

**** her.

Oh and BTW, I'm pretty liberal. This isn't politics at its heart. It's ****ing stupid at its heart, or should I say at it's asshole.
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Old 06-26-2014, 03:33 PM   #10
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What the **** is wrong with everyone? This whole thing is so outrageous. What's next, after Chiefs, Braves, Indians, Cowboys? Then what? Are we not allowed to dress up as Anything other than table lamps for Halloween because it could offend someone? This is such bullshit.

I bet you money, this lady sits around a disparages other races. She probably talks abut the dirty person of Hispanic heritages, the over privileged WASPS, the gang banging thugs and the flaming phaaaaggggooots as she sits and writes Congress her complaints about football teams and their "names". The loudest pieces of shit, are usually the most hypocritical.

**** her.

Oh and BTW, I'm pretty liberal. This isn't politics at its heart. It's ****ing stupid at its heart, or should I say at it's asshole.
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Old 06-26-2014, 08:40 AM   #11
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But there is nothing racist about white people dressing up as Indians, or a football team players posing in ceremonial dress, the tomahawk chop or some dufus dressing up as an indian in the stands with arrows in him...

Yeah, I agree, I don't see anything racist about that either...

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Old 06-26-2014, 07:23 AM   #12
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For those who said the slippery slope would not affect the Chiefs.

I think you lost that argument.

My problem with this is

We have a lot bigger issues to worry about.

Civil war in Iraq, threats of terrorism, North Korea, kidnappings in Africa, drought, oil, etc. And these people are mad about a mascot that was named after a person.
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Old 06-26-2014, 07:28 AM   #13
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For those who said the slippery slope would not affect the Chiefs.

I think you lost that argument.

My problem with this is

We have a lot bigger issues to worry about.

Civil war in Iraq, threats of terrorism, North Korea, kidnappings in Africa, drought, oil, etc. And these people are mad about a mascot that was named after a person.
That is so stupid and basic.

Because there are problems in Iraq everyone is an asshole for being concerned about other issues that are important to them for one reason or another.
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