****Official Andy Reid Fan Club****

[Crush]

I'm officially on board. Come on to KC, you big fat mustached Mormon. There is no deliverance in the desert. Who is with me?

[Dylan]

Reid makes perfect sense for the Chiefs, Panthers and Cardinals. The fact is he did an amazing job in a very short period of time with the Eagles.

Whether some of you believe he is a good head coach or not, you have to believe he is amazing at developing quarterbacks.

He won't last very long on the open market. Just my opinion.

[Dylan]

Originally Posted by PGM

Dylan as long as he doesn't try to convert Dabolless to Defensive Coordinator or some shit, I'm good.

LOL.

Reid's last 2 years were not good - but he was consistently in the hunt every year.

Reid's teams were very tough to play against. In fact, they were brutal.

Teams cannot be on top every year - People come and go and teams change.

Just my opinion.

[BigBeauford]

I am in obviously. I spent 4 minutes making this avatar and I will be damned if that is wasted.

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by MahiMike

Koo Koo Ka Choo. I'm in with the walrus.

Someone gets it

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by Dylan

Reid makes perfect sense for the Chiefs, Panthers and Cardinals. The fact is he did an amazing job in a very short period of time with the Eagles.

Um, I disagree here from two angles.

If you're saying he turned around a team very quickly, I agree and disagree. The Eagles had a number of solid drafts prior to Andy Reid landing there in 99, they had a ton of pieces to the puzzle in place defensively, They drafted McNabb that same year when Andy Reid came in, arguably being 2-3 guys away from being a perennial divisional winner, short mainly the QB. It still took Reid I believe 2, maybe 3 years to get to the playoffs, and then they ran away with the conference for a few years.

Point being it wasn't JUST Andy Reid turning them around in a short time, they were poised the moment they hired Reid and drafted a decent QB.

Arguably very similar to what we have here in KC, just with a bit more competition from the Broncos with Manning and the broncos pass rush now. Irony that we're talking about hiring Reid and Geno Smith is drawing comparisons to McNabb of all people. Lets not get 110% homer about that yet.

The second angle is the "short time" argument. The Eagles had a stretch of about 4-5 years where they were a solid team, but they started to draft very poorly and ended up producing weaker and weaker teams to compete in their division. They also didn't "plan" their team around the division, like we saw so predominantly in the AFC South, and I believe that Andy Reid has to take part of that blame in Philly, and not just their GM and newerish Owner. It seemed to me like Reid had quite a bit of input in their scouting and drafting while he was there.

That being said, I do like the Walrus, I just want us to go a different direction here in KC, I want someone proven at the college level, but somewhat "fresh" to the NFL with a solid supporting cast of coaches to bring along.

[Dylan]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

Someone gets it

By reading your posts - you surely don't.

The Eagles had a stretch of about 4-5 years where they were a solid team

What part of this don't you understand?


Here are the highlights from Reid's legacy with the Eagles:

Regular season record 130–93-1
NFC East Division Champion 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2010
NFC Championship 2004
Coach of the Year 2000, 2002 (Maxwell, Sporting News, Associated Press)

[Rams Fan]

Reid from 1999-2004 is different from the Reid of 2005-2012.

[Dylan]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

Um, I disagree here from two angles.

If you're saying he turned around a team very quickly, I agree and disagree. The Eagles had a number of solid drafts prior to Andy Reid landing there in 99, they had a ton of pieces to the puzzle in place defensively, They drafted McNabb that same year when Andy Reid came in, arguably being 2-3 guys away from being a perennial divisional winner, short mainly the QB. It still took Reid I believe 2, maybe 3 years to get to the playoffs, and then they ran away with the conference for a few years.

Point being it wasn't JUST Andy Reid turning them around in a short time, they were poised the moment they hired Reid and drafted a decent QB.

Arguably very similar to what we have here in KC, just with a bit more competition from the Broncos with Manning and the broncos pass rush now. Irony that we're talking about hiring Reid and Geno Smith is drawing comparisons to McNabb of all people. Lets not get 110% homer about that yet.

The second angle is the "short time" argument. The Eagles had a stretch of about 4-5 years where they were a solid team, but they started to draft very poorly and ended up producing weaker and weaker teams to compete in their division. They also didn't "plan" their team around the division, like we saw so predominantly in the AFC South, and I believe that Andy Reid has to take part of that blame in Philly, and not just their GM and newerish Owner. It seemed to me like Reid had quite a bit of input in their scouting and drafting while he was there.

That being said, I do like the Walrus, I just want us to go a different direction here in KC, I want someone proven at the college level, but somewhat "fresh" to the NFL with a solid supporting cast of coaches to bring along.

Save your angles!

Here you go:

When Reid was hired in 1999 by new owner Jeffrey Lurie, the Eagles were coming off 3-13 and 6-9-1 seasons under Ray Rhodes. Before Rhodes, the head coach position had been held by Rich Kotite and Buddy Ryan. All three had coached to varying levels of very limited success accompanied by frustrating failure. The only playoff showing among those three coaches had occurred in 1988, under Ryan, when the season ended in abject depression with a loss to the Chicago Bears in the game still known as The Fog Bowl.

Before the 2001 season, Philadelphia Eagles fans had to travel all the way back to the Dick Vermiel years (1976-1982) to scrounge up the last memory of playoff success with the 1980 Superbowl loss to the Oakland Raiders.

Reid, hired "off the board" as a quarterbacks coach under the tutelage of Mike Holmgren with the Green Bay Packers, was able to change most of that depressing history. He impressed Lurie and Joe Banner with his binders full of detailed blueprints for the short-term revival of a lost football franchise. In the end he completed the transformation of the Philadelphia Eagles into franchise that elicited talk of The Gold Standard. Yet Reid could never quite get over the Lombardi Hump and bring Philadelphia an NFL Championship.
But the fact is he did an amazing job in a very, very short period of football time! Not only did he get the Eagles into the NFC Championship in just his third year, he completely altered the Philadelphia NFL experience. He made the Eagles FUN to watch.

His early drafts brought in many of the right kind of players ... from taking a third round chance on an undersized, local product with a questionable knee-injury in Brian Westbrook (Villanova) to grabbing cornerbacks Lito Sheppard and Sheldon Brown in that same 2003 draft, and yes, even the drafting of Donovan McNabb, the quarterback the Philadelphia Eagles needed at the time.

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by Dylan

By reading your posts - you surely don't.



What part of this don't you understand?


Here are the highlights from Reid's legacy with the Eagles:

Regular season record 130–93-1
NFC East Division Champion 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2010
NFC Championship 2004
Coach of the Year 2000, 2002 (Maxwell, Sporting News, Associated Press)

What part didn't I understand? The part where you just quoted and used my point, to verify my point.

Thanks!

[Dylan]

Exoter175:

I recommend you watch Jeff Lurie's press conference on Monday. I also recommend that you do some research on Howie Roseman and Cleveland Brown's Joe Banner before you do.

Although Lurie never says Banner's name in the press conference that is who he is talking about regarding the Eagles drafts.

You see Exoter175, before Roseman became GM, the Eagles were drafting well. Once Roseman had control, the Eagles have went 10-6, 8-8, and 4-12.

To catch you up to speed fast, the Eagles and Cardinals are after the same head coach.

Okay - I'm out.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Reid turned Namdi Asoumha into a worthless piece of garbage.

[hometeam]

Howard Eskin ‏@howardeskin
Andy Reid meeting w KC Chiefs 2day in PHL lasted close to 9 hours and never made it to Arizona.I Was there and looked like meeting went well

[TRR]

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

Reid turned Namdi Asoumha into a worthless piece of garbage.

Nnamdi Asomugha was an overrated worthless piece of garbage before he got to Philadelphia.
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[hometeam]

The more I think about it the more I am OK with Andy Reid. He is a known QB guy, and has been a very successful coach in his career. I think he has the potential to be our next Marty or DV. Am I ecstatic jumping off the walls about it? No, because I understand he has had his ups and downs, but again, his ups far outweigh the downs historically.

I am also perplexed and awed by the fact that he is physically indistinguishable from Mike Holmgren

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by Rams Fan

Fox has-up to this point-accomplished less than what Reid has.

They have both been to one Super Bowl as a HC. Fox also is a much better gameday coach and he gets his players to play for him. Coaching isn't always just x's and o's, and Fox can do that too.