Tyler Bray vs Patrick Mahomes II competition for backup

[Rasputin]

This should be a simple poll. Who do you all think will win the backup job to Alex Smith during training camp and preseason competition? Meaning the one that gets to suit up on game days to trust when Alex Smith gets KO~ed out of a game.

Andy Reid said this is a competition so let them duel it out.

Tyler Bray 5th year man being a back up to a backup gives him the edge knowing the system and being around the guys and coaching. He is currently the #2 quarterback.

vs the challenger


Patrick Mahomes II the #10 pick in the first round after trading up 17 spots and has a lot to learn but has desire to be the starting quarterback sooner than later.


This isn't about Alex Smith but who would you trust to go in a game if heaven forbid something happens to our starting quarterback to keep us alive for the playoffs?

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

u agree that it was just.. one.. preseason game, yes?

For Bray's fifth preseason... He is shit. He was shit in practice with his errant throws just like the ones he made tonight. He lost confidence in himself after his INT and it was brutal obvious. If that's in a real game and he can't bounce back he will keep putting the team in jeopardy like he did.

Not good showing after his first couple throws but he went downward spiral.

[penbrook]

I guess we're all gonna ignore Brays 80 yard td pass but let's keep bringing up Pats 40 yard pass. CP logic at its finest

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by penbrook

I guess we're all gonna ignore Brays 80 yard td pass but let's keep bringing up Pats 40 yard pass. CP logic at its finest

do stop.

Neither backup looked all that good tonight. Let us not make more of it than that. One preseason game... no QB looked awful, but Bray does need to look over his shoulder as QB2. /this silly shit

[bigjosh]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

u agree that it was just.. one.. preseason game, yes?

Bray just played in this teams 17th pre season game since he showed up..

The guy hasnt progressed a bit in 4 years. He looks the same as the guy that played in the pre season in 2013 after coming here as an undrafted free agent.

I wasnt the one that said he had reached his ceiling. that was in the post i responded to.

However, Patrick Mahomes floor is higher than Brays ceiling right now as far as im concerned.

[penbrook]

“I felt great coming out,” Bray said. “I went out there and executed pretty well. Mistakes here and there, but they’re fixable. … It was my check down, I was stepping up in the pocket and just threw it a little too far outside.”

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by penbrook

“I felt great coming out,” Bray said. “I went out there and executed pretty well. Mistakes here and there, but they’re fixable. … It was my check down, I was stepping up in the pocket and just threw it a little too far outside.”

translation "Graded out perfectly"

[bigjosh]

Originally Posted by penbrook

I guess we're all gonna ignore Brays 80 yard td pass but let's keep bringing up Pats 40 yard pass. CP logic at its finest

and he followed that beautiful pass that was called back with a terrible interception on a shit throw making a shit decision.

Thats what Bray does. and he has been doing it for 4 pre seasons now.

[007]

Originally Posted by penbrook

“I felt great coming out,” Bray said. “I went out there and executed pretty well. Mistakes here and there, but they’re fixable. … It was my check down, I was stepping up in the pocket and just threw it a little too far outside.”

[penbrook]

Mahomes get some last night magic. He is now up to 10K mentions on twitter

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by bigjosh006

However, Patrick Mahomes floor is higher than Brays ceiling right now as far as im concerned.

Which is too bad I was hoping that Bray would be serviceable to allow PMII develop at a steady pace

[Rasputin]

No one would give a shit if Bray got cut tomorrow we would just find another teams practice squad warrior that would be our #3 and have Mahomes backing up Alex this year.

[bigjosh]

Originally Posted by penbrook

“I felt great coming out,” Bray said. “I went out there and executed pretty well. Mistakes here and there, but they’re fixable. … It was my check down, I was stepping up in the pocket and just threw it a little too far outside.”

Bray has actually statistically gotten worse in 5 years.

[bigjosh]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Which is too bad I was hoping that Bray would be serviceable to allow PMII develop at a steady pace

What better way to develop than be involved in every practice and talking to alex smith after every drive/wearing a headset on the sideline with a playbook in hand, and actually dressing for games.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by bigjosh006

Thats what I am saying.

Mahomes played better than Bray, with the 3s, No oLine, and kept his shit together.

Mahomes earned his time with the 2s. If bray has a problem with it he can go home and throw beer cans out his window or something.

I love Mahomes but I didn't see that at all. Mahomes showed a better improv skill, without question. But on Brays deep ball that was called back, he placed it perfectly. Meanwhile Mahomes underthrew his by 3 yards and took an easy TD off the board. Mahomes made the nice first down throw for 14 yards or so but it wasn't better than Brays back shoulder throw.

The difference in their games was literally 1 foot. If Mahomes misses that throw to Kemp by even a little and it's picked and Bray gets his ball down on third just a little bit, everything is viewed differently.

Now, that foot matters a TON in terms of outcomes, but is it truly predictive? I don't think it is.

I want Mahomes as the 2, don't get me wrong. I'm just puzzled to come back from the game, check CP and learn that folks think Mahomes was great and Bray was shattered ass. I didn't see nearly the separation there and was actually encouraged by both of them.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by bigjosh006

What better way to develop than be involved in every practice and talking to alex smith after every drive/wearing a headset on the sideline with a playbook in hand, and actually dressing for games.

assimilating the playbook, is a mother****er evaluating film without possible times said rookie was shitting himself because he couldn't recognize the coverage set then had to Elway/Favre it. Throwing a player to the wolves isn't always the best idea or a David Carr,Jake Plummer, or Heath Shuler situation could arise.