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Old 05-26-2013, 09:43 PM   #1
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If you combine all of that, you might come up with a fraction of an expected loss.
Whatever, man. I am not saying it's all on Yost but a good chunk is.

This team continues to act like little kids, play with their head up their and ass Yost just keeps being Yost.

He has done nothing to send a message to anyone. Every decision he has made seems to come back to haunt him and the team.

We were ****ing 17-13 when he decided to move Gordon, for whatever reason. We have won 4 games since.

17 with him the leadoff
4 since he has moved

Some will argue that's an irrelevant move and I will call BS flat out on it. Escobar was hitting good behind Gordon and ahead of Butler. Now he has gone to pot.

In other words at the first sign of a losing streak longer than 2 games, Yost became the "Nervous Ned" we all heard about and ****ed with what wasn't broken, for the most part.

Just like how he pulled Shields when he really had no reason too.
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Old 05-26-2013, 10:00 PM   #2
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So al, are Hoz and Moose busts at this point? Are they just not good like we thought they would be?

Can they develop into real MLB players and what will it take for them to get better?
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Old 05-26-2013, 10:04 PM   #3
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So al, are Hoz and Moose busts at this point? Are they just not good like we thought they would be?

Can they develop into real MLB players and what will it take for them to get better?
I don't know. The odds are that at least one of them is a bust. If the other takes the Alex Gordon development timeline, then we'll lose our pitching before they come around.
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Old 05-26-2013, 10:06 PM   #4
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I don't know. The odds are that at least one of them is a bust. If the other takes the Alex Gordon development timeline, then we'll lose our pitching before they come around.
So when Seitzer told Yost we were still 2-3 years out of being a power team was firing Seitzer and insisting on more power a good decision?
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Old 05-26-2013, 10:09 PM   #5
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I don't know. The odds are that at least one of them is a bust. If the other takes the Alex Gordon development timeline, then we'll lose our pitching before they come around.
So do you believe Alex developed by himself or with help?

It just seems so many in this franchise goes bust route. Where are we going wrong with prospects who are highly touted?
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Old 05-26-2013, 10:12 PM   #6
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So do you believe Alex developed by himself or with help?

It just seems so many in this franchise goes bust route. Where are we going wrong with prospects who are highly touted?
My opinion is we bring them up too soon and\or depend on them too much once they are up.

We put too much pressure on Grienke too early.

We put too much pressure on Gordon too early.

We are doing the same with Hos and Moose.

None of these guys are getting the chance to be rookies.

I mean, FFS, Moose was batting cleanup to start the season. WHY?
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Old 05-26-2013, 10:15 PM   #7
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I mean, FFS, Moose was batting cleanup to start the season. WHY?
He crushed the ball in Surprise, bro! Just crushed it!
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Old 05-27-2013, 08:59 AM   #8
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My opinion is we bring them up too soon and\or depend on them too much once they are up.

We put too much pressure on Grienke too early.

We put too much pressure on Gordon too early.

We are doing the same with Hos and Moose.

None of these guys are getting the chance to be rookies.

I mean, FFS, Moose was batting cleanup to start the season. WHY?

Well, that's the problem with the Royals.....they don't spend the money for veteran big bats like a Pujols or Hamilton to help take pressure off of young guys....so then they have to rush prospects.....so what happens if they bust or struggle? Exactly what we have seen for the past decade. At least in the 90s they still spent money for veteran bats with pop..just had no pitching.
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Old 05-26-2013, 10:03 PM   #9
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al, I posted as much to you in a rep message, but it's a ****ing great change of pace to have civil disagreements here. I hate the personal route that 99% of the tiffs seem to take on CP. Mostly, thats because I suck at insults
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al, I posted as much to you in a rep message, but it's a ****ing great change of pace to have civil disagreements here. I hate the personal route that 99% of the tiffs seem to take on CP. Mostly, thats because I suck at insults
No problem, I'm pretty aggressive with the ignore button so I don't really get into insult/flame-wars.
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Hosmers swing is sooooo long but he seems to have it better mentally, moose has a better looking swing, but his head is dumb
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Old 05-26-2013, 10:07 PM   #12
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Hosmers swing is sooooo long but he seems to have it better mentally, moose has a better looking swing, but his head is dumb
The problem with the both of them is they are trying to kill the ball. You can see it plain as day. Both are pulling their head. Both are not hitting for much power. Both are rolling over on a lot of pitches.

That's a sign that they are trying to go yard instead of hitting line drives.
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Was the Seitzer firing a Yost decision? If so, does Moore share the blame (if there is any to be given) for not vetoing it?
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Was the Seitzer firing a Yost decision? If so, does Moore share the blame (if there is any to be given) for not vetoing it?
Moore shares the blame in a lot of this. I do believe the Seitzer firing was a Yost decision.
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Moore shares the blame in a lot of this. I do believe the Seitzer firing was a Yost decision.
I highly doubt that.
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