Chiefs Mayock sees four options for the Chiefs at No. 1 - Page 8

**FRCDFED** · 02-19-2013, 09:05 AM

Mayock sees four options for Chiefs at No. 1

Posted by Mike Florio on February 19, 2013, 9:02 AM EST

APOn Monday, preeminent draft guru Mike Mayock participated in a pre-Combine conference call that lasted more than 2.5 hours. Tirelessly answering question after question, Mayock demonstrated once again a computerized recall of names and teams and needs.

With plenty of interest focused on what will happen at the top of the draft, Mayock eventually was asked to identify the players he believes to be worthy of the first overall pick, held by the Chiefs.

Mayock said there are four: Alabama guard Chance Warmack; North Carolina guard Jonathan Cooper; Texas A&M tackle Luke Joeckel; and Central Michigan tackle Eric Fisher.

Warmack is Mayock’s preference. “People will tell me I’m crazy, that a guard can’t go No. 1,” Mayock explained. “I think he’s the best player in the draft, so I would argue that.”

The list doesn’t create the kind of sizzle to which we’ve become accustomed at the top of the draft. And for good reason. There are no quarterbacks regarded as worthy of being the first overall pick this year.

Mayock realizes that the Chiefs’ needs could be influenced by their decision regarding tackle Branden Albert (who could actually move to guard if a guy like Joeckel is drafted with the first pick). Still, Chiefs coach Andy Reid learned the hard way in 2012 the importance of having a high-end offensive live. With a cluster of high-quality blockers at the top of the draft and a rookie wage scale to keep the total cost far less than what it would be to sign Albert to a long-term deal, the Chiefs could opt for the lineman whom they decide they like the most.

And then they’d hope that the rest of the teams agree with G.M. John Dorsey’s assessment that none of the quarterbacks merit a first-round selection. Which would push all of the quarterbacks to the Chiefs at the top of round two.

O.city · 02-20-2013, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WV

In this teams situation I firmly believe it sets us further back not taking the QB we want than it would "reaching" for a QB at #1. It would be perfect if we could wait until the 2nd round and get who we want, but I don't see that happening.

We obviously need a qb. I'd say we will have a much better feel how it will play out after this weekend, draft slotting wise.

So I'll not jump to conclusion on that

**BossChief** · 02-20-2013, 12:40 AM

Dorsey probably didn't even send one of his scouts in GB to a Geno Smith game all year...why would he?

Notice when he is talking about who thinks what about the QB class, he is talking about other people's evaluations and clearly said that he and Andy would be setting their own board because of how good they are at evaluating the position.

**BossChief** · 02-20-2013, 12:41 AM

I can't wait to listen to John Dorsey and Andy Reid's interviews at the combine when asked directly about Geno.

silver5liter · 02-20-2013, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

Dorsey probably didn't even send one of his scouts in GB to a Geno Smith game all year...why would he?

Notice when he is talking about who thinks what about the QB class, he is talking about other people's evaluations and clearly said that he and Andy would be setting their own board because of how good they are at evaluating the position.

Yeah, didnt he just say "scouts"? Not our scouts per say.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-20-2013, 12:45 AM

im sure they'll play it cool whether impressed or not.
Posted via Mobile Device

tony77 · 02-20-2013, 12:49 AM

LOL Any other player than a guard idiot! wtf

htismaqe · 02-20-2013, 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city

Financially no

But we will still give a guy 3 years . Maybe 2 but I bet 3. So if its not the right guy it still sucks.

But that's probably with whoever we bring in at qb

We've given Tyson Jackson FOUR years AND he's financially set us back.

What's not to love?

htismaqe · 02-20-2013, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

So, before the Combines and Pro Day workouts, who is that difference maker in the 2013 draft?

From all I've read, the same guy at #1 has the same talent as #25.

Who you got?

So you're unable to formulate an opinion of your own and are going by what you've read.

Got it.

htismaqe · 02-20-2013, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I'd rather see them take a guard than be stuck with a shitass QB for the next three years while they justify him because he was taken #1 overall.

Matt Cassel, anyone?

Yeah, you've completely sailed off into dumbass land.

jspchief · 02-20-2013, 08:06 AM

I keep seeing these comments about being committed to a rookie QB for 3 years.

What QB do think is going to play for KC that won't get a 3 year window? Do you think we're going to trade for Foles and not give him 3 years? Or is it just that this mystery non first round answer at QB is more of a sure thing?

Is it so that we can say "yes, we have no QB but at least we have a good LT"? We just had a season with a good LT and a bad QB, and it got us the worst season in franchise history.

None of the arguments against drafting a QB come with an explanation of how we will solve the QB situation.

htismaqe · 02-20-2013, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief

I keep seeing these comments about being committed to a rookie QB for 3 years.

What QB do think is going to play for KC that won't get a 3 year window? Do you think we're going to trade for Foles and not give him 3 years? Or is it just that this mystery non first round answer at QB is more of a sure thing?

Is it so that we can say "yes, we have no QB but at least we have a good LT"? We just had a season with a good LT and a bad QB, and it got us the worst season in franchise history.

None of the arguments against drafting a QB come with an explanation of how we will solve the QB situation.

Dayze · 02-20-2013, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief

I keep seeing these comments about being committed to a rookie QB for 3 years.

What QB do think is going to play for KC that won't get a 3 year window? Do you think we're going to trade for Foles and not give him 3 years? Or is it just that this mystery non first round answer at QB is more of a sure thing?

Is it so that we can say "yes, we have no QB but at least we have a good LT"? We just had a season with a good LT and a bad QB, and it got us the worst season in franchise history.

None of the arguments against drafting a QB come with an explanation of how we will solve the QB situation.

that aint no shit right there.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 02-20-2013, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief

I keep seeing these comments about being committed to a rookie QB for 3 years.

What QB do think is going to play for KC that won't get a 3 year window? Do you think we're going to trade for Foles and not give him 3 years? Or is it just that this mystery non first round answer at QB is more of a sure thing?

Is it so that we can say "yes, we have no QB but at least we have a good LT"? We just had a season with a good LT and a bad QB, and it got us the worst season in franchise history.

None of the arguments against drafting a QB come with an explanation of how we will solve the QB situation.

What we're trying to tell you is :

#1) We all know that KC will not field the same QB next year (Cassel / Quinn)
#2) Reid and Dorsey will evaluate the QB talent available in the Draft, which Dorsey has ALREADY made the comment "there is NO 1st round grade QB talent in this draft"
#3) There are OTHER OPTIONS to acquire a QB.
#4) WArmack is in many peoples opinion the BEST player in the draft.
#5) Dorsey has stated HIS PHILOSOPHY is to draft the BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE.

IMO, it would be unjustified to draft a guard at #1 even though Warmack is the BEST PLAYER IN THIS DRAFT. Logic stands to find a trade partner that has a hardon for Geno and trade down and acquire Warmack at 5-10 thus recieving additional draft picks and select one of the top 5 QBs' in the 2nd round that will still be there. After all WE DO NEED A GUARD and since one is available that will secure the position for the next 10-15 years we should get him. That helps our line and still gives us our QB from the draft .

htismaqe · 02-20-2013, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

Logic stands to find a trade partner that has a hardon for Geno

What logic? Nobody is trading up to #1 for Geno. If he isn't worth a #1 overall pick, he isn't worth a #1 overall pick. Jacksonville is going to take a DE. We have no leverage and NOBODY wants our pick.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

After all WE DO NEED A GUARD

No, we don't.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 02-20-2013, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe

What logic? Nobody is trading up to #1 for Geno. If he isn't worth a #1 overall pick, he isn't worth a #1 overall pick. Jacksonville is going to take a DE. We have no leverage and NOBODY wants our pick.

No, we don't.

Buffalo ??????

02-19-2013, 09:05 AM
FRCDFED Line'em up Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: somewhere out there Casino cash: $9326297	Mayock sees four options for the Chiefs at No. 1 Mayock sees four options for Chiefs at No. 1 Posted by Mike Florio on February 19, 2013, 9:02 AM EST APOn Monday, preeminent draft guru Mike Mayock participated in a pre-Combine conference call that lasted more than 2.5 hours. Tirelessly answering question after question, Mayock demonstrated once again a computerized recall of names and teams and needs. With plenty of interest focused on what will happen at the top of the draft, Mayock eventually was asked to identify the players he believes to be worthy of the first overall pick, held by the Chiefs. Mayock said there are four: Alabama guard Chance Warmack; North Carolina guard Jonathan Cooper; Texas A&M tackle Luke Joeckel; and Central Michigan tackle Eric Fisher. Warmack is Mayock’s preference. “People will tell me I’m crazy, that a guard can’t go No. 1,” Mayock explained. “I think he’s the best player in the draft, so I would argue that.” The list doesn’t create the kind of sizzle to which we’ve become accustomed at the top of the draft. And for good reason. There are no quarterbacks regarded as worthy of being the first overall pick this year. Mayock realizes that the Chiefs’ needs could be influenced by their decision regarding tackle Branden Albert (who could actually move to guard if a guy like Joeckel is drafted with the first pick). Still, Chiefs coach Andy Reid learned the hard way in 2012 the importance of having a high-end offensive live. With a cluster of high-quality blockers at the top of the draft and a rookie wage scale to keep the total cost far less than what it would be to sign Albert to a long-term deal, the Chiefs could opt for the lineman whom they decide they like the most. And then they’d hope that the rest of the teams agree with G.M. John Dorsey’s assessment that none of the quarterbacks merit a first-round selection. Which would push all of the quarterbacks to the Chiefs at the top of round two.
Posts: 3,185

02-20-2013, 12:40 AM	#107
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $1644088	Dorsey probably didn't even send one of his scouts in GB to a Geno Smith game all year...why would he? Notice when he is talking about who thinks what about the QB class, he is talking about other people's evaluations and clearly said that he and Andy would be setting their own board because of how good they are at evaluating the position. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
Posts: 47,158

02-20-2013, 12:41 AM	#108
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $1644088	I can't wait to listen to John Dorsey and Andy Reid's interviews at the combine when asked directly about Geno. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
Posts: 47,158

02-20-2013, 12:45 AM	#110
Sweet Daddy Hate Unsparing Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $10004900	im sure they'll play it cool whether impressed or not. Posted via Mobile Device
Posts: 77,135

02-20-2013, 12:49 AM	#111
tony77 Starter Join Date: Jan 2013 Casino cash: $10004900	LOL Any other player than a guard idiot! wtf
Posts: 336

02-20-2013, 08:06 AM	#115
jspchief BAMF Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Your Face Casino cash: $9998710	I keep seeing these comments about being committed to a rookie QB for 3 years. What QB do think is going to play for KC that won't get a 3 year window? Do you think we're going to trade for Foles and not give him 3 years? Or is it just that this mystery non first round answer at QB is more of a sure thing? Is it so that we can say "yes, we have no QB but at least we have a good LT"? We just had a season with a good LT and a bad QB, and it got us the worst season in franchise history. None of the arguments against drafting a QB come with an explanation of how we will solve the QB situation. __________________ Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all.
Posts: 27,207