PFF on our OL

[Hammock Parties]

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...season-week-1/

Teething Problems Up Front

After the departure of three key offensive linemen you would excuse the Chiefs’ for being off the pace up front and they certainly struggled in their first extended outing of preseason.

All five starting linemen earned negative grades in pass protection with Eric Fisher (40 snaps, -1.4 overall), Jeff Allen and Zach Fulton (40 snaps, -4.6 overall) surrendering multiple pressures. Conceding the most pressure was new right guard Fulton who let up a pair of hits and a pair of hurries, getting started early as Star Lotulelei drove outside of him for a hurry early in the game.

The bright point, and potential pressure for Fulton’s starting job, came from new signing Jeff Linkenbach (27 snaps, +3.8 overall) who surrendered no pressure with the second team and put in a very strong run-blocking display to offer a modicum of hope.

Bonus:

In spite of registering his first sack of the preseason this was a crash back down to earth for Dee Ford (34 snaps, -4.1 overall), struggling in every phase of the game.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

People bitch because the Chiefs made a BUNCH of win-now moves before the 2013 season, including signing several second-tier free agents that now have eaten up the team's cap space, then did NOTHING but sit on their haunches and add via the draft this offseason.

They seem to be competing philosophies.

I don't think it's a hard story. The Chiefs decided to rebuild but make it enjoyable to watch. I don't think it's a competing philosophy. Judging by the way we negotiated contracts this off-season and dorseys style with the Packers, this year is much more representative of how the team will probably be run all years forward. So over five years, we will look back and probably see year 1 as unusual. Some may disagree with me, but I don't think letting the team tank last year was ever an option. I think Clark hunt gave the ultimatum to at least make the team watchable in 2013 and it's hard to blame him.

[Chiefnj2]

Fisher completely sucked last year and spent all of this offseason recuperating and rehabbing from two surgeries. I have no idea why people think he's going to step on the field and play well. Everyone said he needed an offseason of strength and conditioning which he didn't get with the shoulder surgery. It wouldn't surprise me if he injures himself again.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't think it's a hard story. The Chiefs decided to rebuild but make it enjoyable to watch. I don't think it's a competing philosophy. Judging by the way we negotiated contracts this off-season and dorseys style with the Packers, this year is much more representative of how the team will probably be run all years forward. So over five years, we will look back and probably see year 1 as unusual. Some may disagree with me, but I don't think letting the team tank last year was ever an option. I think Clark hunt gave the ultimatum to at least make the team watchable in 2013 and it's hard to blame him.

That still doesn't mean it makes sense as a viable long-term approach for doing things.

If "being respectable" was truly mandated in 2013, and that's what led to the Alex Smith deal, all the FA signings, etc, with anything other than the goal of building a long-term winner in mind, **** Clark Hunt.

Now, maybe Alex Smith really is a guy they looked at as bridging the gap between this prospective "ultimatum" to not suck and building long-term. Maybe. If that's the case, and Andy Reid really likes him that much, it makes signing him long-term even more important.

Problem is, all those shitty FA signings from 2013 to satisfy this prospective "ultimatum" potentially handcuff the Chiefs in keeping Smith and actually retaining the best young player on their roster (Justin Houston).

If Clark Hunt put Dorsey in that spot and is to blame for the competing and counter-productive approaches, **** him.

But that would still be better than Dorsey flip-flopping his approach from year to year.

[Dave Lane]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

He's starting to sound like Baghdad Bob about this situation.

Hole in our line there is no hole in our line

[Just Passin' By]

PFF grading the preseason

[cwhocares]

Eric Fisher got beat like a step child in Sundays game. The Chiefs need to bring in a special coach to work with him one-on-one or Smith will not last 4 games. There has got to be someone better in the meantime. Maybe go with a 2 TE set to give Fisher some help and give Kelce some extra time?

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

People bitch because the Chiefs made a BUNCH of win-now moves before the 2013 season, including signing several second-tier free agents that now have eaten up the team's cap space, then did NOTHING but sit on their haunches and add via the draft this offseason.

They seem to be competing philosophies.

Bingo.

Go out and give up a small fortune (in draft picks) for Alex Smith and then surround him with garbage and potentially get him killed.

****ing brilliant.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

I feel badly for all of the die-hard fans here that actually do still have a spine left, and believe that their team may in fact get that 1st playoff win since 97.

So only those fans that believe the team can win in the playoffs are die-hard? Being a loyal fan for almost 40 years counts for nothing just because you have some doubt?

That's about the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

Of course, your definition of "die hard" might different, given that you follow players and don't know a thing about teams or loyalty.

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

Poor, defeated bastards.

Feeling defeated after 30 years of failure is a natural human emotion. People that want this team to prove it are NORMAL.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

So only those fans that believe the team can win in the playoffs are die-hard? Being a loyal fan for almost 40 years counts for nothing just because you have some doubt?

That's about the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

Of course, your definition of "die hard" might different, given that you follow players and don't know a thing about teams or loyalty.



Feeling defeated after 30 years of failure is a natural human emotion. People that want this team to prove it are NORMAL.

I feel badly for the "die-hards" with blind faith (who Sandy likes to praise), too... It takes blind faith to believe they're going to do enough to fix or cover up the massive problems on the OL and in the secondary to make the playoffs. Because the Chiefs are going to yank the football away from them at the last moment again, leaving them flat on their backs.

Originally Posted by cwhocares

Eric Fisher got beat like a step child in Sundays game. The Chiefs need to bring in a special coach to work with him one-on-one or Smith will not last 4 games. There has got to be someone better in the meantime. Maybe go with a 2 TE set to give Fisher some help and give Kelce some extra time?

I don't think there's enough one-on-one coaching to fix his issues this season. MAYBE if he gets stronger between this year and next, he can get the job done. But there's still the matter of technique and footwork, which have a long way to go, too.

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by Count Zarth

Defense mechanism? I'm on the offense, baby. I attack all shitbird players and their legion of true fan homer supporters. You will all eventually believe in the Tao of Suck. Convert now! Or fall forever.

I have no clue what you are talking about... but I think you should cut your losses and stop typing.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Bingo.

Go out and give up a small fortune (in draft picks) for Alex Smith and then surround him with garbage and potentially get him killed.

****ing brilliant.

Not a bad plan IMO. Get some decent band aids while you build through the draft and then your drafted players will be ready.

S. Smith, Fasano, DeVito and Avery were all band aids and will all be gone this time next year.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Not a bad plan IMO. Get some decent band aids while you build through the draft and then your drafted players will be ready.

S. Smith, Fasano, DeVito and Avery were all band aids and will all be gone this time next year.

And if Alex Smith doesn't survive this process?

They've drafted replacements for every "bridge" player EXCEPT Alex Smith...

[Chiefnj2]

It's a horrible plan. You basically waste two + years of Smith, Hali, DJ, Charles and Bowe for the hope that you are going to have a fantastic 2015 draft to build around. The ultimate hope being that those draft picks can replace the 5 aforementioned players.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

And if Alex Smith doesn't survive this process?

They've drafted replacements for every "bridge" player EXCEPT Alex Smith...

Whether you like it or not, Reid loves Alex and wants him here. That's not changing for the next 3 years (at least).

I would suggest getting used to it

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Whether you like it or not, Reid loves Alex and wants him here. That's not changing for the next 3 years (at least).

I would suggest getting used to it

Did you read my post? He can't play for 3 more years if he gets broken in half behind this awful offensive line.

If Alex Smith IS NOT a "band aid" - if he's truly a long-term solution - then they haven't exactly treated him like it. They've surrounded him with band-aids and garbage.

Does that make ANY sense to you at all?