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Setsuna · 08-13-2013, 12:53 PM

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**Mav** · 08-13-2013, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

No, he is doing just fine. Sucs that he choked away the SB comeback in the end though. He should be really good, but it yet to be seen how well he can diagnose defenses... or if he can keep fame from turning him into a prick or convict.

My two concerns with him when he took over were that he wasn't as good at the line of scrimmage as Alex, he did get better as the season went on, but that will prolly be the one area at least for a year or so that Alex Smith will be ahead of him, and two his touch throws.

That's what I will be looking for this year if he is going to take that next step....

9er guy · 08-13-2013, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

He should be really good, but it is yet to be seen how well he can diagnose defenses... .

Pretty sure he shredded the Pats in New England for 4 TD passes.

Sandy Vagina · 08-13-2013, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

My two concerns with him when he took over were that he wasn't as good at the line of scrimmage as Alex, he did get better as the season went on, but that will prolly be the one area at least for a year or so that Alex Smith will be ahead of him, and two his touch throws.

That's what I will be looking for this year if he is going to take that next step....

... and I thin he will. I am expecting more turnovers for sure (small hands/fumbles and lasers that he thinks will slice through but don't), but he and his running will create that backyard balling NFL explosion that this generation of kiddies cream themselves over. Will he be clutch when it most counts? eh.. maybe.

Sandy Vagina · 08-13-2013, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 9er guy

Pretty sure he shredded the Pats in New England for 4 TD passes.

29th ranked pass defense in the league? well.. bravo, Kaep!

**Mav** · 08-13-2013, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 9er guy

Pretty sure he shredded the Pats in New England for 4 TD passes.

yeah bro, that's a pretty bad example. Considering the next week he played against a great defense and looked horrible while getting Manningham knocked out for the season, and Davis knocked out for the game.

I know that the schedule did us no favors, and that played a part, but that too is the difference in defenses.

DJ's left nut · 08-13-2013, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

You lose credibility with each post. So if Bray their to Draughn with a guy chose to him, its a first down, goal to go. If it's Alex, and 50 it's further away, he's dead to rights.

Uh...what?

I said I'd have liked to have seen Smith try to make a throw here.

But just like I said in the Bray post - any time a QB is trying to throw off his back leg, it's an extremely difficult throw and the decision-making has to be judged accordingly.

And as to the respective LBs - at the moment McCluster made his cut (which was the discussion I was having with the grownup in the room), 50 was driving forward and in front of the route of the crossing WR; he was two strides to impact. Shit, he's looking right at McCluster as McCluster starts his break. If the LB drives on the ball, he probably bats it away. If he drives on McCluster, he absolutely destroys him. Do you deny for a second that 50 would've absolutely butt-****ed McCluster there had McCluster been the #1 option and the ball released at the top of the drop?

In the Bray clip, the LBs momentum had taken him the other direction because he followed the first guy out of the backfield, IIRC. He was a full 5 yards behind Draughn and even with him, not 1 yard behind him and facing him.

The two aren't even remotely comparable situations and your point is ancillary at best.

As to credibility - sweetheart, you're allowing Goatse to be your pied piper. I'll worry about your barometer of my credibility when you follow someone that actually has some.

DJ's left nut · 08-13-2013, 01:09 PM

Aturnis, just a quick primer on 'credibility'.

It's your position that McCluster's situation w/r/t #50 at the moment Smith reaches the top of his drop in this clip:

Is remotely comparable to Draughn's situation w/r/t #53 at the moment Draught turns for the ball in this clip:

Really? That's the argument you want to have when discussing one's credibility? That the play where a guy is literally staring at someone running right towards him is similar to the one where he's picking up a 2nd player that's in front of him with the far side of the field to work with.

I'd suggest you work on your spatial awareness a bit there, champ.

Setsuna · 08-13-2013, 01:14 PM

Bray treats check downs as sacrilege.

9er guy · 08-13-2013, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

29th ranked pass defense in the league? well.. bravo, Kaep!

First you said he can't read a defense.

Then I give you an example and you say they weren't good enough.

Seattle beat everybody at home last year. I had that as an L on the schedule with Alex at the start of the year, let alone Kaep.

Again look at where the bar is now.

We've gone from "He can't read a defense" to "He didn't beat the Seahawks and Pats on the road in back-to-back weeks in his first handful of starts."

Vernon got himself knocked out. There was absolutely no reason to jump for that ball. It was a bad game. He played badly.

I don't think he was exposed in any way though.

DJ's left nut · 08-13-2013, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

Says the guy who repeatedly takes stuff from the Chiefs board back to the 49ers board. you have, absolutely no room to talk.

Seriously, keep engaging the trolls and you'll end up amongst them. It's easy to just block about 3/4 of the Niners fans on here because all they want to do is pimp Kaepernick and talk about some other message board. I don't give a **** about 9ers boards and fully recognize that Keapernick is a better QB to have then Smith. Moving on.

I've tried to leave a couple of you off the list because you seem to be actively engaged in football discussion. You keep doing this shit and you'll force myself (and others) to engage in a scorched earth policy with you damn 49er fans.

Seriously - most of you guys suck. Badly.

Setsuna · 08-13-2013, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

29th ranked pass defense in the league? well.. bravo, Kaep!

WAIT JUST A GOSH DARN MINUTE NOW. I hope you NEVER referenced AS's performance against the Saints because I know for a freaking fact that defense had the worst statistical year in NFL history. So YOU BETTER SHUT YOUR SHIZ NOW.

**Mav** · 08-13-2013, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Seriously, keep engaging the trolls and you'll end up amongst them. It's easy to just block about 3/4 of the Niners fans on here because all they want to do is pimp Kaepernick and talk about some other message board. I don't give a **** about 9ers boards and fully recognize that Keapernick is a better QB to have then Smith. Moving on.

I've tried to leave a couple of you off the list because you seem to be actively engaged in football discussion. You keep doing this shit and you'll force myself (and others) to engage in a scorched earth policy with you damn 49er fans.

Seriously - most of you guys suck. Badly.

Fair enough. Done and done.

Sandy Vagina · 08-13-2013, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Clayton Bibsby

WAIT JUST A GOSH DARN MINUTE NOW. I hope you NEVER referenced AS's performance against the Saints because I know for a freaking fact that defense had the worst statistical year in NFL history. So YOU BETTER SHUT YOUR SHIZ NOW.

Fine by me. Kaepernick is just really crazy good.

Better?

**loochy** · 08-13-2013, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

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lol @ you

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DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $1579099	Aturnis, just a quick primer on 'credibility'. It's your position that McCluster's situation w/r/t #50 at the moment Smith reaches the top of his drop in this clip: Is remotely comparable to Draughn's situation w/r/t #53 at the moment Draught turns for the ball in this clip: Really? That's the argument you want to have when discussing one's credibility? That the play where a guy is literally staring at someone running right towards him is similar to the one where he's picking up a 2nd player that's in front of him with the far side of the field to work with. I'd suggest you work on your spatial awareness a bit there, champ. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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