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Old 02-14-2019, 11:51 AM   #1
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Old 02-14-2019, 12:18 PM   #2
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Lucas and Watts are already going to be here as safeties, I think it's time to move on from the past suck and the injured Berry, pursue Collins he has familiarity with this staff with Merritt and Spagnuolo, draft Adderly, roll with Collins Adderly Watts and Lucas...that is an overall that makes that position younger cheaper and better cause Collins isn't gonna make what Berry does either.
If they want to or can move on from Berry, sure. I don't think they will or will be able to but that's gonna play out either way.

If they do though, I wouldn't be excited to just sign another safety to a big deal, especially one that's a similar player to Berry.
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Old 02-14-2019, 11:54 AM   #3
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The CB position isn't that far away either, Fuller, Ward and Smith are gonna be here, what they really need is a legit top level guy.

It's why I think if Minnesota is serious about moving Rhodes the Chiefs should be all over that. He's not that expensive for his position and he's a solid 1 for awhile. Supplement that with either a draft pick or a low risk high upside FA signing and all of the sudden this secondary is a lot better.
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Old 02-14-2019, 12:00 PM   #4
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The CB position isn't that far away either, Fuller, Ward and Smith are gonna be here, what they really need is a legit top level guy.

It's why I think if Minnesota is serious about moving Rhodes the Chiefs should be all over that. He's not that expensive for his position and he's a solid 1 for awhile. Supplement that with either a draft pick or a low risk high upside FA signing and all of the sudden this secondary is a lot better.
There are rumors that the Giants could be cutting Janoris Jenkins. He'd be an interesting pick up if it's not super expensive.
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Old 02-14-2019, 12:02 PM   #5
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There are rumors that the Giants could be cutting Janoris Jenkins. He'd be an interesting pick up if it's not super expensive.
That'd be a decent cheap option. That's the other thing this team should be doing, looking at vets who get cut who want to win something and are willing to take less for it.

Eric Weddle is an option for that if Baltimore moves on.
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The CB position isn't that far away either, Fuller, Ward and Smith are gonna be here, what they really need is a legit top level guy.

It's why I think if Minnesota is serious about moving Rhodes the Chiefs should be all over that. He's not that expensive for his position and he's a solid 1 for awhile. Supplement that with either a draft pick or a low risk high upside FA signing and all of the sudden this secondary is a lot better.
I haven't seen anything about them wanting to move on from him, but if so that would be a nice option.
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Old 02-14-2019, 02:20 PM   #7
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Chiefs #1 priority should be to fix the middle of the defense.

First off, they should go out and get a safety. Landon Collins would be the ideal choice since he is young and familiar with Spagnuolo’s defensive philosophy and scheme.

Secondly, they need a middle linebacker bad. Personally, I would trade up for Devin White. That guy is going to be amazing. He has everything the Chiefs inside linebackers lacked in explosiveness, great sideline to sideline speed, makes good reads, he is responsible for taking on and filling his gaps, closes angles well, a good tackler in the open field and he plays with tremendous fortitude. He fights off blocks and doesn’t give up on plays.

He is pretty complete. They traded up to get their QB, Heart of the offense, and I think they should do the same on D.
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White isn't going to be an option...Bush is a much more realistic candidate at MLB.
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Old 02-14-2019, 04:32 PM   #9
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Trade up for a MLB when they just gave Hitchens a bunch of money?

No thanks. The position isn't THAT important.
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Old 02-14-2019, 05:54 PM   #10
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Trade up for a MLB when they just gave Hitchens a bunch of money?

No thanks. The position isn't THAT important.
What??? I disagree.

Hitchens isn't a MLB. Put him back to his original position to where he was in Dallas.

You need MLBs bro. Why take that position for granted? I don't understand?

You do realize a big reason our defense sucked was because they looked totally lost, confused and that resulted in them being disorganized and out of position many many many times. Communication, lack of understanding, organization all were issues with this defense last season.

An intelligent MLB will fix those issues; especially one that knows the defense inside and out that is willing to create the right tone and environment for the defense. You need those guys to constantly communicate and help educate the rest of your teammates and facilitate awareness within the defensive unit itself. One that could pass along knowledge about the defense, so guys could learn and become more responsible for both their assignments and where to line up and be in that right position to make plays.

Than it is just a matter of others executing around him. MLBs promote structure with a defense. To say a MLB is not important is so ****ing ignorant. No offense. A MLB makes the players around him better.

*this defense has zero leaders and no structure a big reason for that is because they don't have a field general. Tell me who is going to fix all that? Sapgnuolo and the coaches? Hitchens? Ragland? They both proved they couldn't do that last year.
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What??? I disagree.

Hitchens isn't a MLB. Put him back to his original position to where he was in Dallas.

You need MLBs bro. Why take that position for granted? I don't understand?

You do realize a big reason our defense sucked was because they looked totally lost, confused and that resulted in them being disorganized and out of position many many many times. Communication, lack of understanding, organization all were issues with this defense last season.

An intelligent MLB will fix those issues; especially one that knows the defense inside and out that is willing to create the right tone and environment for the defense. You need those guys to constantly communicate and help educate the rest of your teammates and facilitate awareness within the defensive unit itself. One that could pass along knowledge about the defense, so guys could learn and become more responsible for both their assignments and where to line up and be in that right position to make plays.

Than it is just a matter of others executing around him. MLBs promote structure with a defense. To say a MLB is not important is so ****ing ignorant. No offense. A MLB makes the players around him better.

*this defense has zero leaders and no structure a big reason for that is because they don't have a field general. Tell me who is going to fix all that? Sapgnuolo and the coaches? Hitchens? Ragland? They both proved they couldn't do that last year.
First of all, I never said MLB wasn't important. I said it isn't important enough that you give up a bunch of draft picks to move up from 29 to the middle of the 1st round.

By the way, Hitchens original position is WLB. He's also played a ton of MLB. Put him at WLB and DOD goes to the bench. He's not a SLB, playing him there would be a mistake.

And if you think a rookie MLB is going to come in here and elevate the entire defense, I don't know what to tell you. We're not getting DJ or Kuechly in this draft and those are the guys that actually make a difference at MLB.
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Old 02-14-2019, 08:31 PM   #12
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First of all, I never said MLB wasn't important. I said it isn't important enough that you give up a bunch of draft picks to move up from 29 to the middle of the 1st round.

By the way, Hitchens original position is WLB. He's also played a ton of MLB. Put him at WLB and DOD goes to the bench. He's not a SLB, playing him there would be a mistake.

And if you think a rookie MLB is going to come in here and elevate the entire defense, I don't know what to tell you. We're not getting DJ or Kuechly in this draft and those are the guys that actually make a difference at MLB.
dude, you implied it wasn't important and acted like they should just play Hitchens just because he got his payday.
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dude, you implied it wasn't important and acted like they should just play Hitchens just because he got his payday.
You're wrong. I said explicitly that MLB wasn't THAT important, referring to your statement that we should try to trade up to get one, especially when they already have Hitchens on a big contract.

I never said that it wasn't important at all. Didn't even imply it.

This team has a ton of needs and trading away multiple draft picks to get a MLB would be foolish, especially considering there aren't any blue chippers in this draft class anyway.

It's pretty simple English if you'd just bother to read.
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What??? I disagree.

Hitchens isn't a MLB. Put him back to his original position to where he was in Dallas.
In Dallas he played MLB in 2014, 2015, 2016 and in 2017 when he beat out Jaylon Smith until another injury to Sean Lee when they moved him to the WLB.
So in short his original position was MLB with the Cowboys.
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In Dallas he played MLB in 2014, 2015, 2016 and in 2017 when he beat out Jaylon Smith until another injury to Sean Lee when they moved him to the WLB.
So in short his original position was MLB with the Cowboys.
No it wasn't. Cowboys traded for Rolando McClain and that was originally their plan at MLB. Hitchens was originally not slotted to play there to begin with.

Cowboys wanted him to learn all three different linebacker positions and make him versatile. That's because guys were either getting injured or suspended. Hitchens was used laterally by the Cowboys to help solidify their depth at linebacker.

He has experience at MLB but that was never his original position.
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