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Dinny Bossa Nova · 05:17 PM

QBs and rookies report today.

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saphojunkie · 07-26-2016, 05:03 PM

Instead of killing megathreads, how about people just aren't ****rags when someone posts a piece of news that was buried in the megathread.

Dear god, give me Mod powers so I can punish the Q police.

**RealSNR** · 07-26-2016, 05:03 PM

Conley will probably be #2.

I honestly don't see Streater even making the team. I don't see why he would. There's been no evidence in the past two seasons to make one think he's worth a couple squirrel farts more than the garbage we've been trotting out there at WR spots #2-5 since the Vermeil era.

Mike Williams is also on alert, but I think he stands a better chance of being able to contribute than Streater does.

**SAUTO** · 07-26-2016, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Instead of killing megathreads, how about people just aren't ****rags when someone posts a piece of news that was buried in the megathread.

Dear god, give me Mod powers so I can punish the Q police.

Best idea. It's called common ****ing sense which seems more uncommon by the day

**RealSNR** · 07-26-2016, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Instead of killing megathreads, how about people just aren't ****rags when someone posts a piece of news that was buried in the megathread.

Dear god, give me Mod powers so I can punish the Q police.

People want a place to talk about each day's action. The issue isn't about the Q police.

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-26-2016, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR

Conley will probably be #2.

I honestly don't see Streater even making the team. I don't see why he would. There's been no evidence in the past two seasons to make one think he's worth a couple squirrel farts more than the garbage we've been trotting out there at WR spots #2-5 since the Vermeil era.

Mike Williams is also on alert, but I think he stands a better chance of being able to contribute than Streater does.

Streater's on the books for $4.8 million, Williams for Vet Min.

Williams hasn't participated at all with the Chiefs due to injury.

jspchief · 07-26-2016, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Meatloaf

Hard to think that the OL won't be improved over last year. Having our young guys gain another year of experience and adding Schwartz should yield a much improved line. The RB position will be improved with having Charles back. WR corp should be about the same, or perhaps improved a bit with more experience and the addition of Streater. The QB position took a hit with CD leaving, but if Alex stays healthy again, that's a push.

DL is probably a push. LB is probably a push. Secondary definitely took a hit with losing Smith, Branch and Abdullah, but we did draft several potential replacements; plus Gaines returns.

Special teams could be improved with the addition of Hill.

Gosh, I don't see how this team isn't better than our 2015 roster.

Well yeah... if you just assume every young player gets better, every old player doesn't lose a step, and every rookie pans out its not hard to claim the team is better.

I think it's pretty optimistic to assume the loss of Smith, Branch, and Abdullah will be offset by rookies and unproven players. Sure some young guys are likely to step up. Conversely some vets are likely to age/regress.

I see the addition of Schwartz and return of Charles and Houston as upgrades, the loss of Smith, Abdullah, and Branch as downgrades. Pretty much everything else is an unknown. Significant growth from guys like Gaines and Conley can tip the scales.

RunKC · 07-26-2016, 05:13 PM

If Dee Ford doesn't step up and get heat on the QB then the defense will take a step back from last year.

He's the most important player on the team right now with Houston out.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 07-26-2016, 05:15 PM

I've always said build your defense through the draft and plug and play solid vets on offense. I think Dorsey got my message. This keeps your defense with young fresh legs. Replacing smith Abdullah and Branch with draftees is good .

raybec 4 · 07-26-2016, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

The more I think about Conley's trash stats the more worried I get.

In 16 games with only one receiver to really compete with he caught 17 passes. He was targeted 31 times. He caught one touchdown. 199 yards. And word around the Chiefs is Conley looked terrible in mini camp. That’s without pads, the time when receivers are supposed to shine. (see: Tyreke Hill)

Sylvester Morris' rookie year was 48 catches for 678 yards and he was a "bust"*. Bowe had 70 catches for 995 yards and he was “bad”

*injury I know. But at this point the smart money is on Conley is never our #2 wide receiver, I don't care what his measurables are. You have to create separation, catch the ball, and demonstrate that you're a gamer.

I'm worried.

What source from the Chiefs said this?

saphojunkie · 07-26-2016, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR

People want a place to talk about each day's action. The issue isn't about the Q police.

People are in different time zones, on different schedules, and discussions last longer than one day.

Maybe a weekly thread?

Or how about this... Whoever starts the thread updates it every day with a quote in the OP. The quote can automatically take you to the discussion that began on that day.

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-26-2016, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

The more I think about Conley's trash stats the more worried I get.

In 16 games with only one receiver to really compete with he caught 17 passes. He was targeted 31 times. He caught one touchdown. 199 yards. And word around the Chiefs is Conley looked terrible in mini camp. That’s without pads, the time when receivers are supposed to shine. (see: Tyreke Hill)

Sylvester Morris' rookie year was 48 catches for 678 yards and he was a "bust"*. Bowe had 70 catches for 995 yards and he was “bad”

*injury I know. But at this point the smart money is on Conley is never our #2 wide receiver, I don't care what his measurables are. You have to create separation, catch the ball, and demonstrate that you're a gamer.

I'm worried.

I didn't read any reports that stated Conley was "terrible". He may not have been a standout but I don't think he was awful.

Morris was a bust because of injury, not because of talent or work ethic. Bowe was most certainly not a bust but he decided to eat himself out of the league 10 years after above average career.

**Meatloaf** · 07-26-2016, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

Well yeah... if you just assume every young player gets better, every old player doesn't lose a step, and every rookie pans out its not hard to claim the team is better.

I think it's pretty optimistic to assume the loss of Smith, Branch, and Abdullah will be offset by rookies and unproven players. Sure some young guys are likely to step up. Conversely some vets are likely to age/regress.

I see the addition of Schwartz and return of Charles and Houston as upgrades, the loss of Smith, Abdullah, and Branch as downgrades. Pretty much everything else is an unknown. Significant growth from guys like Gaines and Conley can tip the scales.

Yeah, I agree with the criticism of the secondary, and I think I mentioned that we took a hit there. And yes, not every player improves, so there's that too. Nonetheless, I think solidifying our OL is HUGE. We've struggled with that for awhile, and this is the first time it appears that we may have adequate pieces. Of course, injuries could wreck everything.

**SAUTO** · 07-26-2016, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie

People are in different time zones, on different schedules, and discussions last longer than one day.

Maybe a weekly thread?

Or how about this... Whoever starts the thread updates it every day with a quote in the OP. The quote can automatically take you to the discussion that began on that day.

That's a great ****ing idea. Damn you're a smart feller

Kiimo · 07-26-2016, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4

What source from the Chiefs said this?

I said word around the Chiefs. Reports on 810 during the mini-camp.

saphojunkie · 07-26-2016, 06:24 PM

I heard the Conley stuff, too, but I'm not sure how much of that was just the reporter's own conjecture or if it came from the team.

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