Chiefs Your dream 1st/2nd round combo for next week's NFL Draft - Page 7

pugsnotdrugs19 · 06:46 PM

Alright so, try to keep these as realistic as possible obviously, but let's talk about our preferred draft choices for the Chiefs come next Thursday and Friday evening at the draft. They have the 28th and 59th overall selections. Now, obviously guys like Carson Wentz and Jalen Ramsey are not going to be available at 28. Likewise, we won't see players like Corey Coleman or Eli Apple at 59.

For me, I feel like this team is just a piece or two away, so I want to see immediate impact players selected if at all possible. Thus, my dream 1st and 2nd round mock...

Round 1, Pick 28: Mackensie Alexander, CB Clemson
He's brash and confident, and the tape does not lie. It won't come without some growing pains, but Alexander has the ability to step in day one and give us a great potential lockdown corner across from Marcus Peters. You can never have enough corners. The Chiefs are already in need of corner depth, but in this scenario we add it to the top of the heap. Week 1 against SD, Peters, Alexander, and Phillip Gaines form a really solid starting CB group while Steven Nelson provides great depth.

Round 2, Pick 59: Shilique Calhoun, OLB Michigan State
Here's a guy who is boom or bust. This one comes down most to me trusting Conley's development more than Ford. However, he is one of very few edge rushers in this draft that is equipped to contribute as a pass rusher immediately in the NFL. Again, a position in which you can never have enough of, this pick makes a ton of sense. Justin Houston could miss some time this season. Tamba Hali is at a point in his career where the downfall could come abruptly and unexpectedly. Dee Ford, while he has flashed, cannot be fully counted on just yet. This pick could give the Chiefs the deepest, most talented group of pass rushers in the NFL.

Your turn.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-19-2016, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Meatloaf

Dane, my man, I'm not the one arguing with you!

As per Spence's 40 time, yeah it isn't great, but remember, Tamba ran a 4.87 at his Pro Day (apparently he didn't run in the Combine). And, as per not dominating at Western KY, Spence was co-Defensive Player of the Year for the Ohio Valley Conference! Just thought I'd throw these observations out there for your fine consideration.

PS. Spence's 40 times at his Pro Day was 4.75 and 4.79, so he's getting dinged for that a bit. Still kinda like the guy as I think he's a tough football player.

I'm just not a fan.

Besides that, I don't want a part time player taken in the first round.

And the likelihood of a pass rusher taken at #28 that actually makes an impact in his rookie year (if ever), is extremely unlikely.

Take an every down player, whether it's a CB, WR or even a guard.

**Meatloaf** · 04-19-2016, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

IMO it's almost a certainty that the Chiefs won't draft a CB round 1.WJIII is for sure off the board and I think it's highly likely Apple is gone too.

Value won't be there and I severely doubt Dorsey reaches for Burns. Looks like Howard, Reed, Miller or Fuller in rd 2 is very possible

Run, I think you're right that the prime time DBs won't be there at 28. From what I've seen, the rest of these guys just don't look like starting NFL CB's. I'd rather see them take a safety (assuming there's one out there worth the selection in the 2nd round). I kinda like the Davis kid from Maryland.

**Meatloaf** · 04-19-2016, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I'm just not a fan.

Besides that, I don't want a part time player taken in the first round.

And the likelihood of a pass rusher taken at #28 that actually makes an impact in his rookie year (if ever), is extremely unlikely.

Take an every down player, whether it's a CB, WR or even a guard.

I doubt any of the CB's that'd be available would be starter caliber. Same with WR (very weak year for WRs). Cody Whitehair might be an interesting selection at 28 though?

Chiefshrink · 04-19-2016, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Meatloaf

I doubt any of the CB's that'd be available would be starter caliber. Same with WR (very weak year for WRs). Cody Whitehair might be an interesting selection at 28 though?

Open to trading down IF the situation and compensation is good?

**Rausch** · 04-19-2016, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Take an every down player, whether it's a CB, WR or even a guard.

I like those picks in exactly that order.

milkman · 04-19-2016, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

And the myth continues...

The Man
The Myth
The Legend

**Rausch** · 04-19-2016, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Just commenting on your forum personality.

You are always one keystroke away from melt down.

I like it when you two argue.

It reminds me of my childhood...

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-19-2016, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Meatloaf

I doubt any of the CB's that'd be available would be starter caliber. Same with WR (very weak year for WRs). Cody Whitehair might be an interesting selection at 28 though?

I disagree. If one of the CB's isn't there, then one of the LB's like Lee will be there or a stud WR like Doctson.

They won't all be gone by #28.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-19-2016, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

I like it when you two argue.

It reminds me of my childhood...

You had two dads?

milkman · 04-19-2016, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You had two dads?

sHe's Staci Keanan?

O.city · 04-19-2016, 09:47 PM

Im not a big fan of Lee. He's a bit on the smallish side for an ilb for my liking

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-19-2016, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Im not a big fan of Lee. He's a bit on the smallish side for an ilb for my liking

He's a better Ryan Shazier

**Meatloaf** · 04-19-2016, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

Open to trading down IF the situation and compensation is good?

Kinda depends on who is available at 28. If there's a really good player there, take him. Otherwise, if we're not in love with whomever is available at 28, then sure, trading down would be great. With this team, I'd rather get a good player rather than a couple of decent players. Of course, with the draft it's not as easy as saying that this guy is good and that guy is decent, so the more picks you have, the better chance you have of "hitting" on someone.

All that said, I don't think Dorsey is typically a trade down guy. I actually kinda think he's pretty true to the BPA mantra.

Should be interesting....

**Rausch** · 04-19-2016, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You had two dads?

No.

But I'm willing to guess the "two dad" system argues less...

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-19-2016, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Meatloaf

Kinda depends on who is available at 28. If there's a really good player there, take him. Otherwise, if we're not in love with whomever is available at 28, then sure, trading down would be great. With this team, I'd rather get a good player rather than a couple of decent players. Of course, with the draft it's not as easy as saying that this guy is good and that guy is decent, so the more picks you have, the better chance you have of "hitting" on someone.

All that said, I don't think Dorsey is typically a trade down guy. I actually kinda think he's pretty true to the BPA mantra.

Should be interesting....

Never trade down.

The talent isn't downstream but upstream...

04-19-2016, 06:40 PM
pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $9119447	Your dream 1st/2nd round combo for next week's NFL Draft Alright so, try to keep these as realistic as possible obviously, but let's talk about our preferred draft choices for the Chiefs come next Thursday and Friday evening at the draft. They have the 28th and 59th overall selections. Now, obviously guys like Carson Wentz and Jalen Ramsey are not going to be available at 28. Likewise, we won't see players like Corey Coleman or Eli Apple at 59. For me, I feel like this team is just a piece or two away, so I want to see immediate impact players selected if at all possible. Thus, my dream 1st and 2nd round mock... Round 1, Pick 28: Mackensie Alexander, CB Clemson He's brash and confident, and the tape does not lie. It won't come without some growing pains, but Alexander has the ability to step in day one and give us a great potential lockdown corner across from Marcus Peters. You can never have enough corners. The Chiefs are already in need of corner depth, but in this scenario we add it to the top of the heap. Week 1 against SD, Peters, Alexander, and Phillip Gaines form a really solid starting CB group while Steven Nelson provides great depth. Round 2, Pick 59: Shilique Calhoun, OLB Michigan State Here's a guy who is boom or bust. This one comes down most to me trusting Conley's development more than Ford. However, he is one of very few edge rushers in this draft that is equipped to contribute as a pass rusher immediately in the NFL. Again, a position in which you can never have enough of, this pick makes a ton of sense. Justin Houston could miss some time this season. Tamba Hali is at a point in his career where the downfall could come abruptly and unexpectedly. Dee Ford, while he has flashed, cannot be fully counted on just yet. This pick could give the Chiefs the deepest, most talented group of pass rushers in the NFL. Your turn. Last edited by pugsnotdrugs19; 04-19-2016 at 06:46 PM..
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