Chiefs The Clarks Love Money More than Vets - Page 7

**gblowfish** · 05-08-2015, 08:30 AM

Apologies if posted before, and maybe this ought to be in the DC section.

Washington Post reports that the Federal Military has paid millions to the NFL to "salute" veterans. The Clarks took $250,000. So much for the NFL saluting soldiers out of the goodness of their hearts.

The Chiefs don't need the money. They should send that cash back to the military to buy body armor for active service guys, so we wouldn't have so many "wounded warriors" to salute. This whole thing makes me more cynical than I already am, if that's even possible.

Just salute veterans because its the right thing to do, and pick up the goddamn check. They put their lives on the line for us, it's the least a tax-exempt, multi-billion dollar enterprise like the NFL can do.

I didn't get a harrrump outta that guy......

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...rss=rss_sports

During timeouts at home games, the New York Jets air a Hometown Heroes segment in which a U.S. soldier or two are shown on the Jumbotron and everyone thanks them for their service. The soldiers and three friends get seats in the Coaches Club. It’s a nice salute.

It’s also funded by U.S. taxpayers.

According to Christopher Baxter and Jonathan D. Salant of New Jersey Advance Media, the Department of Defense paid 14 NFL teams $5.4 million from 2011 to 2014 for salutes like the Hometown Heroes segment and other advertising at professional football games. All but $100,000 of that money came from the National Guard.

U.S. Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) called the spending wasteful and disingenuous, Baxter and Salant report:

“Those of us go to sporting events and see them honoring the heroes,” Flake said in an interview. “You get a good feeling in your heart. Then to find out they’re doing it because they’re compensated for it, it leaves you underwhelmed. It seems a little unseemly.” …

“They realize the public believes they’re doing it as a public service or a sense of patriotism,” Flake said. “It leaves a bad taste in your mouth.”

Flake added that he has no problem with the National Guard spending money on recruitment advertising at football games. “The problem, he said, was spending taxpayer money on a program that, on its face, appeared to be a generous gesture by a football team,” Baxter and Salant write.

The story goes on to detail what the National Guard gets in return for its spending:

Aside from the Hometown Heroes segment, the agreements also included advertising and marketing services, including a kickoff video message from the Guard, digital advertising on stadium screens, online advertising and meeting space for a meeting or events.

Also, soldiers attended the annual kickoff lunch in New York City to meet and take pictures with the players for promotional use, and the Jets allowed soldiers to participate in a charity event in which coaches and players build or rebuild a playground or park.

The Jets also provided game access passes.

A National Guard spokesman said the agreement with the Jets helps promote and increase “the public’s understanding and appreciation of military service in the New Jersey Army National Guard increases the propensity for service in our ranks and garners public support for our Hometown Team.” A Jets spokesman says the team works with the National Guard just as it works with any other sponsor to tailor in-game advertising.

According to the report, the Colts and Ravens are among the other teams that have similar agreements with the National Guard.

ThaVirus · 05-09-2015, 12:47 PM

I'm waiting to be enlightened

**TimBone** · 05-09-2015, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mav

Don't mind him. He's stupid.

That dude is far from stupid. He just happens to have a misguided take on this situation.

Tbh, alot of today's youth seem to feel that same way. If the main war of my lifetime was the current war in Iraq, my thoughts on the military might be a little ****ed as well.

**Mav** · 05-09-2015, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Well if it isn't the Browns, 49ers, Chiefs, Giants, Royals, Celtics, Grizzlies fan with the premium porn pass...

Hence why you are stupid, and useless. And why I didn't even try to reason with you. And you don't watch porn? Tell me another lie chump.

**Mav** · 05-09-2015, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TimBone

That dude is far from stupid. He just happens to have a misguided take on this situation.

Tbh, alot of today's youth seem to feel that same way. If the main war of my lifetime was the current war in Iraq, my thoughts on the military might be a little ****ed as well.

I get that. But after 9/11 people with his myopic view disgust me. That did happen here. And the moron tried to compare truck drivers and roofers to soldiers and firemen.

ThaVirus · 05-09-2015, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TimBone

That dude is far from stupid. He just happens to have a misguided take on this situation.

Tbh, alot of today's youth seem to feel that same way. If the main war of my lifetime was the current war in Iraq, my thoughts on the military might be a little ****ed as well.

Thanks, man. Meet me out back for your gratitude beej.

But seriously. I would like to hear what people with dissenting opinions feel constitutes a "righteous" American war since the year 1989.

Desert Storm? The war on drugs? The war on terror? Afghanistan? Iraq?

**TimBone** · 05-09-2015, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Thanks, man. Meet me out back for your gratitude beej.

But seriously. I would like to hear what people with dissenting opinions feel constitutes a "righteous" American war since the year 1989.

Desert Storm? The war on drugs? The war on terror? Afghanistan? Iraq?

Not ignoring you, man. I've got some school work to get to...I'll try and reply later tonight.

kcbubb · 05-09-2015, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I'm not one for military worship. No soldier in my lifetime has ever fought a war for my "freedom"...

This is worst comment that I've ever read on chiefs planet. You don't think sending our soldiers to Afghanistan and them dying to prevent another 9/11 protects your freedom? You need to stop playing video games and get a grip on the real world. Show some respect for those that die in service to prevent terrorism. When in doubt keep your mouth shut in regards to respecting our veterans. I've never served in the military. As a dad, I'm thankful for those that go and do so willingly so that I don't have to.

-King- · 05-09-2015, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb

You don't think sending our soldiers to Afghanistan and them dying to prevent another 9/11 protects your freedom?

Wut.

ThaVirus · 05-09-2015, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Wut.

YOU NEED TO STOP PLAYING VIDEO GAMES AND GET A GRIP ON THE REAL WORLD

chiefs1111 · 05-09-2015, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Eh, I'd still rather see Metallica than a fly over but hey, that's just me.

I'm with you on that.

kcbubb · 05-09-2015, 11:29 PM

Do you view terrorism as denying freedom? Do you believe we should just let terrorists kill without any response?

kcbubb · 05-09-2015, 11:33 PM

Was it James Foley's fault that he was executed?

kcbubb · 05-09-2015, 11:39 PM

Another issue is should we only protect our freedom? Hitler would love you. Do you believe that it would have been wrong to have done more to prevent the holocaust because it doesn't protect your freedom?

Brock · 05-09-2015, 11:43 PM

You ask a lot of really dumb questions.

kcbubb · 05-09-2015, 11:43 PM

If you don't know what the holocaust is ....

The Holocaust (from the Greek ὁλόκαυστος holókaustos: hólos, "whole" and kaustós, "burnt"),[2] also known as the Shoah (Hebrew: השואה, HaShoah, "the catastrophe"), was a genocide in which approximately six million Jews were killed by the Nazi regime and its collaborators.[3] Some historians use a definition of the Holocaust that includes the additional five million non-Jewish victims of Nazi mass murders, bringing the total to approximately eleven million. Killings took place throughout Nazi Germany and German-occupied territories.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust

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gblowfish Be Kind To Your Pets Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Glorious Independence, MO Casino cash: $17596178 VARSITY	The Clarks Love Money More than Vets Apologies if posted before, and maybe this ought to be in the DC section. Washington Post reports that the Federal Military has paid millions to the NFL to "salute" veterans. The Clarks took $250,000. So much for the NFL saluting soldiers out of the goodness of their hearts. The Chiefs don't need the money. They should send that cash back to the military to buy body armor for active service guys, so we wouldn't have so many "wounded warriors" to salute. This whole thing makes me more cynical than I already am, if that's even possible. Just salute veterans because its the right thing to do, and pick up the goddamn check. They put their lives on the line for us, it's the least a tax-exempt, multi-billion dollar enterprise like the NFL can do. I didn't get a harrrump outta that guy...... http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...rss=rss_sports During timeouts at home games, the New York Jets air a Hometown Heroes segment in which a U.S. soldier or two are shown on the Jumbotron and everyone thanks them for their service. The soldiers and three friends get seats in the Coaches Club. It’s a nice salute. It’s also funded by U.S. taxpayers. According to Christopher Baxter and Jonathan D. Salant of New Jersey Advance Media, the Department of Defense paid 14 NFL teams $5.4 million from 2011 to 2014 for salutes like the Hometown Heroes segment and other advertising at professional football games. All but $100,000 of that money came from the National Guard. U.S. Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) called the spending wasteful and disingenuous, Baxter and Salant report: “Those of us go to sporting events and see them honoring the heroes,” Flake said in an interview. “You get a good feeling in your heart. Then to find out they’re doing it because they’re compensated for it, it leaves you underwhelmed. It seems a little unseemly.” … “They realize the public believes they’re doing it as a public service or a sense of patriotism,” Flake said. “It leaves a bad taste in your mouth.” Flake added that he has no problem with the National Guard spending money on recruitment advertising at football games. “The problem, he said, was spending taxpayer money on a program that, on its face, appeared to be a generous gesture by a football team,” Baxter and Salant write. The story goes on to detail what the National Guard gets in return for its spending: Aside from the Hometown Heroes segment, the agreements also included advertising and marketing services, including a kickoff video message from the Guard, digital advertising on stadium screens, online advertising and meeting space for a meeting or events. Also, soldiers attended the annual kickoff lunch in New York City to meet and take pictures with the players for promotional use, and the Jets allowed soldiers to participate in a charity event in which coaches and players build or rebuild a playground or park. The Jets also provided game access passes. A National Guard spokesman said the agreement with the Jets helps promote and increase “the public’s understanding and appreciation of military service in the New Jersey Army National Guard increases the propensity for service in our ranks and garners public support for our Hometown Team.” A Jets spokesman says the team works with the National Guard just as it works with any other sponsor to tailor in-game advertising. According to the report, the Colts and Ravens are among the other teams that have similar agreements with the National Guard.
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kcbubb Veteran Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $6056719	If you don't know what the holocaust is .... The Holocaust (from the Greek ὁλόκαυστος holókaustos: hólos, "whole" and kaustós, "burnt"),[2] also known as the Shoah (Hebrew: השואה, HaShoah, "the catastrophe"), was a genocide in which approximately six million Jews were killed by the Nazi regime and its collaborators.[3] Some historians use a definition of the Holocaust that includes the additional five million non-Jewish victims of Nazi mass murders, bringing the total to approximately eleven million. Killings took place throughout Nazi Germany and German-occupied territories. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust
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